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    Release 8.0 faster. And bring back 3 months between patches.

    I dont think its healthy for the game to have 9 months or more between the last patch and a new expansion. Putting a second ultimate in the last patch will help but for the survival of the game i think its a bad idea to have long content drought. Step up now pls.
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    Anything else you'd like?
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    Yes. Better msq. Fun healing and unique classes. Add anticheat. Ingame dps meter. Fun Dungeons that can scale. What do you want?
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    they should stretch out the content more to fill the gap

    we can release a-raids two weeks later
    we can release relic tools and weapons in two different patches
    and ex could also be later

    a lot of potential there
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    without fun jobs none of the content is fun!
    jobs should have their full rotations on lvl 60 or 70! for a better low lvl experience.
    for satisfying glam builduing we need 5 basic glamplates + 2 more for each class / job
    pls give us a proper glam collection like every other mmo has.
    pls upgrade the gear from normal raid and also alliance-raid by 10 ilvl each.
    pls add old glowy ex trial weapons for new jobs!
    and for gods sake pls give as the ability to preview any hairstyle on our own character!

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    This wont help much in my opinion. They need to add content that lasts longer or more of it. And faster.
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    I was wondering why they would release the second Occult Crescent map so late, in 7.55. Diadem 2.0 was released late as well and was soon dead content.

    But when we really have to wait such a long time for 8.0, it may makes sense.

    There likely also will be 6 new legendary fish to catch! So if there won't be another ultimate raid, this may keep you busy...

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    Yes. The actual over 4 month is much too long. And many people forget that this also means a whole major patch less in a year. The content is much too thin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    Yes. The actual over 4 month is much too long. And many people forget that this also means a whole major patch less in a year. The content is much too thin.
    And never, ever forget:
    3 months per patch + whatever till next expac = guaranteed 15 months sub + ???
    5 months + whatever = 25 months sub + ???

    So you pay at least for 10 more months for nothing new. So depending on your sub it's 120 bucks or more you gotta pay.
    And the only way the wait before a new expac can go is up, not down with how they do things.
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    The main reason they do not have 3.5 month intervals anymore is because they don't want to overwork their staff anymore. Preventing burnout and keeping them passionate is quite important and along with this, they enforce holidays on people overworking themselves, rotate roles and allow people to transfer to a different role.

    The gap is really quite fine for people who do all of the content; the problem is that most people do not do all of the content so they finish MSQ and then they are done for the rest of the 19-20 weeks until the next patch. Raiders might just do the raids then say they are done. But a smaller minority do all the content for achievements or mounts and are pretty satisfied.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoreth View Post
    I dont think its healthy for the game to have 9 months or more between the last patch and a new expansion.
    I mean, the gap before the expansion isn't good. But there's always been a massive patch lull before an expansion release. It is a problem they have tried to solve by splitting the .5 MSQ in half, doing most of the collab event re-runs, and the mog tome system they added. They also once told us "we can finish off all the relics" in that time. And it's proven not to be a problem by the fact that, despite the huge gap before Dawntrail, people returned to the game and the population almost reached what it did when the game went viral in 2021 before Endwalker launch.

    Obviously the population reduced since Dawntrail, but the fact it increased the amount it did at its actual launch shows most people can wait and just resubscribe later.
    Putting a second ultimate in the last patch will help
    I mean, it will help for Ultimate raiders, yes. But plenty of people don't do that. That's why they said about finishing off relic weapons (I think that was in Heavensward), but given we now also have Field Operations in the last patch it also helps.
    Add anticheat.
    They seem to cause more problems than they solve. Plus I heard of a cheat system that was implement within a monitor itself, technically independent from the computer, making it impossible to detect. People will always find a way around it and all it ends up doing is making it annoying to login or false positives. In any case, they see it as going against privacy laws in various countries.

    I agree with their approach of trying to implement a lot of third-party features into the game. The problem is mainly that they are too slow at doing it and do not prioritize it at all.
    Ingame dps meter.
    They don't do it because most people wouldn't want it since it would create toxicity in the game. There is no point in it when DPS doesn't matter unless you wipe to enrage, and if you wipe to enrage then you know you need to try and increase the DPS of your party - such as by getting foods, pots, asking or observing if others are using core rotation abilities.
    Fun Dungeons that can scale.
    Maybe they will do that. They at least plan to for the next Variant dungeons.
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    Last edited by Jeeqbit; 08-19-2025 at 08:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The main reason they do not have 3.5 month intervals anymore is because they don't want to overwork their staff anymore. Preventing burnout and keeping them passionate is quite important and along with this, they enforce holidays on people overworking themselves, rotate roles and allow people to transfer to a different role.

    The gap is really quite fine for people who do all of the content; the problem is that most people do not do all of the content so they finish MSQ and then they are done for the rest of the 19-20 weeks until the next patch. Raiders might just do the raids then say they are done. But a smaller minority do all the content for achievements or mounts and are pretty satisfied.
    I somewhat disagree here. The content on demand per patch simply isn't enough even if you do everything. 7.3 is only two weeks old and even if you're playing at a snail's pace you will have everything done unless you've deliberately put it off. The sole exception to this is if you play at an incredibly sparse pace, e.g., 1-2 hours a week max. While that definitely is the allotted time some players have, it's a comparable extreme to those putting in 30+ hours.

    It should also be noted that it isn't necessarily the amount of content which is the problem, but rather the lack of longevity. Case in point, treasure maps and such are cool, but expecting that to carry you for 4-5 weeks is pushing it. Especially if Cosmic Exploration isn't to your flavour. Which, considering the drop off rate a mere week later was enormous. I'd hazard a guess in saying most people didn't vibe with it. So treasure maps are now carrying the load for over two months. Yes, there's the EX and Unreal, but for non raiders those aren't content. Even if you do dabble, the Unreal is two kills per week while the EX is 50 runs or however long your sanity lasts trying to farm beyond that for a sub 5% drop rate.

    They seem to cause more problems than they solve. Plus I heard of a cheat system that was implement within a monitor itself, technically independent from the computer, making it impossible to detect. People will always find a way around it and all it ends up doing is making it annoying to login or false positives. In any case, they see it as going against privacy laws in various countries.
    To be blunt, we've long since moved past the point of no return regarding third party stuff. The sheer number of downloads has far exceeding it being worth the risk for SE. Just to put this into perspective, one brought up recently on the discussion reddit has 5 million downloads. And that's only the third most popular one; fourth if you count parsers. What they're doing now is the only solution they will ever implement.
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