Server Tick Rate Is Holding the Game Back

[MayuAmakura]

They will never change it, that's the thing. This caters probably to consoles and their era. Sometimes you go out from snapshot immediately and it doesn't count. Sometimes you go 2 seconds earlier and it still counts. Buggers me but that's how the game works eh.

Another reason why everyone has GCD of 2.5 seconds which is mind boggling and slow compared to other mmos that use 1 seconds of GCD and it becomes even faster at proper haste gear,etc. But people with gamepads probably couldn't play with 1 second fast combat.

In PvP this is even worse. Play Crystaline Conflict, stand on a potion and some other guy that uses sprint and runs through it will take it over you who were standing on potion point. Sometimes you run ahead of that person like 1 second ahead, yet the person from behind you will take your potion and you lose a game because of netcode. Enemy monk kicks you in potion direction, you don't take it which is fine. You now play as Monk and do the same move, enemy takes the potion even though they got kicked. Yeah absolutely disgusting.

[Kohashi]

For those, you effectively had to begin moving as the other explosion was actually going on. Moving after is too late due to its speed, especially at my ping. In any case, I don't think that's how they intended the mechanic to be solved. What you can do is just sprint around in a circle and follow the explosions around, or for the other pattern identify the section that will be hit twice, wait for the one before it to explode, then wait for it to explode twice, then move onto it.

This. There are some of the older fight designs that are really weird to figure out when the snapshot happens because the actual castbar does not appear or is telegraphed anywhere.

They will never change it, that's the thing. This caters probably to consoles and their era. Sometimes you go out from snapshot immediately and it doesn't count. Sometimes you go 2 seconds earlier and it still counts.

If you see the mechanic on the ground, you are already too late. The snapshot is done based on the boss's castbar most of the time and not the actual visual. It's counterintuitive but it is what it is.

[AvoSturmfaust]

They will never change it, that's the thing. This caters probably to consoles and their era. Sometimes you go out from snapshot immediately and it doesn't count. Sometimes you go 2 seconds earlier and it still counts. Buggers me but that's how the game works eh.

Another reason why everyone has GCD of 2.5 seconds which is mind boggling and slow compared to other mmos that use 1 seconds of GCD and it becomes even faster at proper haste gear,etc. But people with gamepads probably couldn't play with 1 second fast combat.

In PvP this is even worse. Play Crystaline Conflict, stand on a potion and some other guy that uses sprint and runs through it will take it over you who were standing on potion point. Sometimes you run ahead of that person like 1 second ahead, yet the person from behind you will take your potion and you lose a game because of netcode. Enemy monk kicks you in potion direction, you don't take it which is fine. You now play as Monk and do the same move, enemy takes the potion even though they got kicked. Yeah absolutely disgusting.

Yet again that "Its because of the Consoleplayers" Bullshit, is that the new "Casuals vs Raider" Topic? Now everything bad in Final has to do with Consoles?

But lets be clear about a few things, no the Server Tick has nothing to do with Consoleplayers, the GCD has nothing to do with it either, and yes as someone which played WoW with a Gamepad, you can press fast and even a 1s GCD would not change anything, if i press X Triangle on my Controller or press 1 2, it has both the same speed, Keyboardplayer arent faster then Controllerplayer.

[PercibelTheren]

I don't know which issues are snapshotting and which are a server tick problem, but some mechanics just boggle my mind. I did Suzaku Unreal with friends and the platform explosions were wildly inconsistent somehow. I would be a good 2 or 3 steps away from the dividing line, clearly on the safe side and still ate the damage and the vuln sometimes.

[Jeeqbit]

I don't know which issues are snapshotting and which are a server tick problem, but some mechanics just boggle my mind. I did Suzaku Unreal with friends and the platform explosions were wildly inconsistent somehow. I would be a good 2 or 3 steps away from the dividing line, clearly on the safe side and still ate the damage and the vuln sometimes.

For those, you effectively had to begin moving as the other explosion was actually going on. Moving after is too late due to its speed, especially at my ping. In any case, I don't think that's how they intended the mechanic to be solved. What you can do is just sprint around in a circle and follow the explosions around, or for the other pattern identify the section that will be hit twice, wait for the one before it to explode, then wait for it to explode twice, then move onto it.

[PercibelTheren]

For those, you effectively had to begin moving as the other explosion was actually going on. Moving after is too late due to its speed, especially at my ping. In any case, I don't think that's how they intended the mechanic to be solved. What you can do is just sprint around in a circle and follow the explosions around, or for the other pattern identify the section that will be hit twice, wait for the one before it to explode, then wait for it to explode twice, then move onto it.

I understand how the mechanic works, I have cleared the Unreal quite a few times. The snapshotting on it is just absolute bs, I guess because 90% of the time, I was just fine and then a bunch of times I just got hit despite the fact that I was VERY CLEARLY IN THE SAFE ZONE. Either actually apply the knockup quickly enough that it's clear that I dodged too late and don't let me walk to the safe side at all, or match the damn animations to the snapshot. This way it's just incredibly frustrating.

[Daralii]

I understand how the mechanic works, I have cleared the Unreal quite a few times. The snapshotting on it is just absolute bs, I guess because 90% of the time, I was just fine and then a bunch of times I just got hit despite the fact that I was VERY CLEARLY IN THE SAFE ZONE. Either actually apply the knockup quickly enough that it's clear that I dodged too late and don't let me walk to the safe side at all, or match the damn animations to the snapshot. This way it's just incredibly frustrating.

Just live in Tokyo like the devs intended.

[Shinku_Tachi]

I understand how the mechanic works, I have cleared the Unreal quite a few times. The snapshotting on it is just absolute bs, I guess because 90% of the time, I was just fine and then a bunch of times I just got hit despite the fact that I was VERY CLEARLY IN THE SAFE ZONE. Either actually apply the knockup quickly enough that it's clear that I dodged too late and don't let me walk to the safe side at all, or match the damn animations to the snapshot. This way it's just incredibly frustrating.

This!

SE either needs to break off the money and upgrade the technical side of things if they want fast and frantic fights. Or they need to give up the "faster = better" design philosophy the battle content team seems to have now, and slow things down a bit, so the server side can keep up.

I'd rather have slower fights, where mechanics hit as indicated than this BS.

[MuraBoy]

This!

SE either needs to break off the money and upgrade the technical side of things if they want fast and frantic fights. Or they need to give up the "faster = better" design philosophy the battle content team seems to have now, and slow things down a bit, so the server side can keep up.

I'd rather have slower fights, where mechanics hit as indicated than this BS.

THIS ^
This upgrade alone would sell me 8.0 easily

[Yeol]

This change alone would sell me 8.0. Doubt they'll ever do it.