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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    I think FC's that represent more active people should in fact get more votes, as more people will benefit from having the house.

    System is working as intended. FC's more deserving of a house and in a greater need that can positively benefit more people, can provide more lotto entries.
    No FC is more deserving that any other FC just cause they have more people, Those huge FC's with hundreds of people are so impersonal so why do they deserve a house more than a small family like FC, purely cause they get more people to bid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s32ialx View Post
    No FC is more deserving that any other FC just cause they have more people, Those huge FC's with hundreds of people are so impersonal so why do they deserve a house more than a small family like FC, purely cause they get more people to bid.
    But my question would be should choosing a plot be commital?

    And if not why don't they allow us to private bidders on whatever house we choose? If the players have the money for the deposits why aren't they allowed to bid on as many houses as their funds allow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solowing View Post
    But my question would be should choosing a plot be commital?

    And if not why don't they allow us to private bidders on whatever house we choose? If the players have the money for the deposits why aren't they allowed to bid on as many houses as their funds allow?
    I don’t know why you’re still wasting time on someone so weak in the logic department.
    This is the same person who thinks a “pity system” should exist for a lottery without even understanding how that would work and would rather sit on nothing while making grand plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erinellza View Post
    I don't know about others but I started playing WoW last winter when they announced housing and I've been playing it since then. I used to be obsessed with XIV housing but I don't care anymore, I gave my solo FC house to my friend and now I only resub for big patches.

    Sure, housing is not out in WoW yet but it already sounds better because of this alone: "Public Neighborhoods – These are created as needed by the game servers and anyone can buy a house in them. As they fill up, new instances are created" - If Blizz can do this, why can't SE?? Also, WoW houses will be permanent.
    It looks fine for now.
    Let’s see what happens after a few patches (remember garrisons and farm?).
    If you think WoW’s housing is better than FFXIV’s ward system, then maybe WoW is the better fit for you.
    Personally, I find WoW’s storytelling too weak, and its artificially manipulated PvP balance just isn’t my taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erinellza;6737726

    Sure, housing is not out in WoW yet but it already sounds better because of this alone: [B
    "Public Neighborhoods – These are created as needed by the game servers and anyone can buy a house in them. As they fill up, new instances are created"[/B] - If Blizz can do this, why can't SE?? Also, WoW houses will be permanent.
    My understanding on the permanance thing is only partially true. As I understand it, if you for example have a home in a 'community' or 'guild' ward, and then are removed from that guild or community, you no longer have a home in that ward. What was far less clear is if that means that you're simply no longer in that ward, but keep your home, or if you lose the home entirely and have to repurchase one. Also, if you DO need to repurchase, is it just a simple 'your stuff is all still where you left it' or do you have to collect it all back and totally redo it all? So, there is still some risks or at least unknowns in 2/3 types of housing wards. Also, unlike ffxiv which prioritizes 'all on one character' play, wow prioritizes alt play. Which is all good and such, but like what if you really love your foresaken but also your blood elf? It seems you can have a home, but at least for me, not all my characters would feel 'at home' in that home.

    To your greater point though? Yes. I have LONG thought it's crap on a cracker that housing is limited/wards are limited/must maintain a sub to keep.

    And while, I am sure some players who play both, will migrate their time to wow, happier with it's housing, I will also say, for as much or little as I personally might like one games housing features over anothers, it alone is not what can hold my interest long term. (Ergo why most of us wish SE didn't tell us to take breaks...and then punish us for doing so). So am I glad wow after 20+ years is giving players housing? Oh yes certainly. Am I hoping that, in the name of competition and better customer service, ffxiv fixes their broken, unfair system to one that is more player friendly? Yes. But do I think this feature alone will lose them a large % of subs to wow specifically when it is live? Not long term, no. (because wow is wow and ffxiv is ffxiv and if you prefer one over the other, you just do and one game system is unlikely to sway that preference by itself).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    I think FC's that represent more active people should in fact get more votes, as more people will benefit from having the house.

    System is working as intended. FC's more deserving of a house and in a greater need that can positively benefit more people, can provide more lotto entries.
    Oh so having more people makes you more deserving?
    What if you have a smaller fc, but have been playing years longer than that other fc?
    Or what if you joined a smaller data center as a group, hoping to finally have a plot, only to realize that there are no 'fc' plots but the personal wards are ghost towns due to people being able to data center travel and trade and therefore have made 'airship shell fc's. (looking at you Materia DC)

    Maybe instead of thinking that one is 'deserving' or less 'deserving' based on how many bodies and bids they can throw at someting, instead focus on the fact that we each pay to play this game and therefore as part of that service, we should all have equal access to the content. Justifying why a group of 30 deserves something more than a close knit group of 4, when the arguement really should be made that they BOTH are deserving and should have access, is a waste of time.

    I don't care if someone wants a solo airship fc they never decorate
    I don't care if someone wants to have a pink piassa nightmare of a house
    I don't care if a fc is 400 members or 4.

    If they have scraped up the funds for that plot, and want it, they should be able to reasonably get it...or something equalvant.

    Wards should open on demand. When x plots are sold, a new one should open.
    Housing should not be repossessed b/c you took a little over a month off from playing the game. 6ish weeks is nothing. It's one major medical stay in the hospital. Or a bad month financially. Or the death of a loved one. Or a big move. Or the birth of a child. Or the start of a new job/college/training. And while some might say 'well if you have that going on the last thing you need to think about is a pretend mmo home' I say "yeah exactly, they shouldn't have to think about it. It should still be there when they are able to return." Because...people when they lose these things they have in some cases put years of work into? They. Are. Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    What if you have a smaller fc, but have been playing years longer than that other fc?
    Time playing doesn't make anyone more deserving than someone else. I say that, and I've been playing since 1.0.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    If they have scraped up the funds for that plot, and want it, they should be able to reasonably get it...or something equalvant.
    Sure, they can reasonably compete with the 30 people in that larger guild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erinellza View Post
    I don't know about others but I started playing WoW last winter when they announced housing and I've been playing it since then. I used to be obsessed with XIV housing but I don't care anymore, I gave my solo FC house to my friend and now I only resub for big patches.

    Sure, housing is not out in WoW yet but it already sounds better because of this alone: "Public Neighborhoods – These are created as needed by the game servers and anyone can buy a house in them. As they fill up, new instances are created" - If Blizz can do this, why can't SE?? Also, WoW houses will be permanent.
    To be honest it's a different system.

    I like being able to go to different wards and freely walk into people's plots an apartments. I like the neighborhood concept.

    Would I rather give that up? And just purely have an instanced system where I can no longer just visit other plots as I please.

    For me , I'd rather not give that up. I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solowing View Post
    To be honest it's a different system.

    I like being able to go to different wards and freely walk into people's plots an apartments. I like the neighborhood concept.

    Would I rather give that up? And just purely have an instanced system where I can no longer just visit other plots as I please.

    For me , I'd rather not give that up. I like it.
    The WoW Housing you will be able to go to visit housing wards, I'm sure there will be people who private their guild/fc wards but there will be public wards as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by s32ialx View Post
    The WoW Housing you will be able to go to visit housing wards, I'm sure there will be people who private their guild/fc wards but there will be public wards as well.
    Don't give me wrong.I'm interested to see how it comes out. Ragging on FF14s system while not having a completed product is bold but effective in getting positive press. But what is going to become of it. What's the players remain sticky to it, or will players drop off partipation after they have their fill. Is what I wonder
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