Limit housing bids for FCs

[Crafoutis]

Well golly, it's a good thing I keep receipts, huh? We got our medium last year. Let's walk down memory lane, shall we?

Golly gosh gee williker, those 'receipts' detail absolutely nothing.

[Rinoa_353]

Golly gosh gee williker, those 'receipts' detail absolutely nothing.

Then you're either blind or illiterate because I see it plainly lol. They posted threads about when they were bidding for a FC plot multiple times. Why are you always so mean such as bragging about winning a large in Exodus when you still have a small in Goblet just to rub it in because someone voiced their frustration from losing? I even checked prior, you have had the same small all this time.

[Yuniko]

Then you're either blind or illiterate because I see it plainly lol. They posted threads about when they were bidding for a FC plot multiple times. Why are you always so mean such as bragging about winning a large in Exodus when you still have a small in Goblet just to rub it in because someone voiced their frustration from losing? I even checked prior, you have had the same small all this time.

*hugs* thank you for standing up for people love. You are a good person. <3

[Burmecia]

Well golly, it's a good thing I keep receipts, huh? We got our medium last year. Let's walk down memory lane, shall we?

Thanks about this, fr. As weirdo who likes to make bunch on progression notes, this is interesting to read. : )

I recently got lucky myself finishing two big plot hunts one of which I've been on since 2023 December.
Why I remember it awkwardly by year and month like that? I won FC mansion then, Dec/2023, and after that I decided to try for private medium-- because I was moving to new server and it felt like stupid enough dream goal; new server was bigger and busier than last one. Around 22months later, private medium is here!
I didn't write the dates to my notes, because i was just interested to see how many rounds of losing it would take: it's 32. I seem to have location data of over 40 plots saved, so some of those rounds had more than 1 choice. I wanted specific size from housing area X, so i wasn't picky with which one of the M sized plots it was, but the right area was must.

[UkcsAlias]

I'm sorry I don't agree that an FC with 10 people should get a large because they got lucky over the group of 50-60 people that worked tirelessly only to continue to get shafted by RNG nearly every week.

Lets say half of the tickets are 10 player fcs, that already means like 10 of those (as im sure 190 isnt the last number - and almost never its all the people in an fc, but for this argument it doesnt matter as its about ratios). This means there is a 50% chance such fc gets it.
Your 50 people, even if they all spend a ticket, still only reach 25%.

But it does get worse for most, people plenty of large fcs do get the 25% luck in their favor, they wont be complaining at all. So as a result, the ones who complain on the forums are the outliers, and the number of fcs reaching 4 attempts at a 25% success rate is 30%. Which is still higher than your odds of winning. So the forums will make the situation appear worse than it is.

If we consider a year with a 10 day cycle, that is 35 attempts. And a less than 0.1% win chance. Its highly unlikely you actualy had this so i just dont believe that you actualy faced this, its far more likely that of your 50 people only like 15 entered the lotery, and for those 10 people fcs, it might have been 5. This then throws the number around a lot.
While 50% of the tickets might still be for the 10p fcs (i realy dont know the fc size distribution), your fc now ends up only having 5% chance, and after a year that still means only an 85% chance of winning once.

But that also ignores the part that there might not always be a large house available. So maybe its less rolls with more tickets. Yet if larges are that scarce, they might also have a lot more tickets involved. I heard that there have been cases of 400 or 500 tickets involved. 50 tickets then is still just a 10% chance.

RNG is painful when the odds just dont seem to happen, but its a fair system. Are there better systems, that as well (repeated entering should realy give a boost in odds). But just because you are unlucky for quite some time doesnt mean anything, as thats the nature of rng.

Even in large FCs, there is usualy just a small portion that cares about housing, an fc of 100 people might still have a similar amount to a 20 people fc. Most people wont get the chance to do anything with housing anyway. Its too limited content for big fcs. Its very likely that a lot of the 10p fc split of because they werent able to acces the content in the bigger fc they were before. And in these fcs, if there are 10 people, its most likely going to be 8+ people with a ticket.

[Rinoa_353]

*hugs* thank you for standing up for people love. You are a good person. <3

You're welcome, I just don't get people like Crafoutis who are mean for no reason, sounds like he is miserable irl. I understand that I am fortunate to have my homes after trying for years but I will continue to vouch for everyone have their own home whether it's a plot in the wards and they also implement instanced housing when Island Sanctuary is already halfway there. All they have to do is put a plot and everyone would have a home but with a 90 limit for outside which I would love and the ward housing can stay the way it is for those that want a neighborhood feeling.

[Solowing]

You're welcome, I just don't get people like Crafoutis who are mean for no reason, sounds like he is miserable irl. I understand that I am fortunate to have my homes after trying for years but I will continue to vouch for everyone have their own home whether it's a plot in the wards and they also implement instanced housing when Island Sanctuary is already halfway there. All they have to do is put a plot and everyone would have a home but with a 90 limit for outside which I would love and the ward housing can stay the way it is for those that want a neighborhood feeling.

The truth of the matter is, if you had the housing system that you wanted.I would have unsubscribed a long time ago.Because there is no need to remain actively subscribed if i'm not going to lose it anyway.

My plots have been used almost daily for the last near decade and for that.My subscription had to be active. Your suggestion makes it so that I would never have needed to subscribe. You would have saved me thousands but youre doing Square absolutely no favors by keeping that money in my pocket.

[Rinoa_353]

The truth of the matter is, if you had the housing system that you wanted.I would have unsubscribed a long time ago.Because there is no need to remain actively subscribed if i'm not going to lose it anyway.

My plots have been used almost daily for the last near decade and for that.My subscription had to be active. Your suggestion makes it so that I would never have needed to subscribe. You would have saved me thousands but youre doing Square absolutely no favors by keeping that money in my pocket.

Sure, it would mean less but other major MMO's and soon WoW have housing for everyone, that just means SE is going to have to invest more into FFXIV and improve the game to keep more people, it's pretty simple.

[Solowing]

[QUOTE=Rinoa_353;6758880]Sure, it would mean less /QUOTE]

Games don't run on kindness and unicorn kisses. WoW isn't doing housing purely for you. At the core of you're going to be buying WoW tokens and buying cash shop items. Is the same devil, just dressed up differently.

Don't get me wrong competition is good, but yea I'd rather not have a housing system that has developer sanctioned RMT baked into it.

[Crafoutis]

Saying someone is mean may be one of the most worthless sentiments to ever exist.

I'm only unlucky enough to have been affronted by its worthlessness via someone else's quotes, because there are more blocked users in this thread than female miqote idling around limsa.