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    Yurippe Shiina
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    [Feedback] Level 100 Dungeons

    Level 100 Dungeons
    I really like the increased difficulty of level 100 dungeons in general!
    I also like that the healers have to use Esuna.
    I also like that the tanks have to use Interject.

    Higher difficulty in the dungeons, as well as the game "forcing" the player to learn to use their role's basic toolkit is long overdue, in my opinion!
    In fact, I think there's still room to further increase the dungeons' difficulty level without even beginning to encroach upon the difficulty level of Extreme Trials.
    Of course there should be, and already is, great distance between those 2 difficulty levels. And I think we can afford to increase the dungeons' difficulty even further, without compromising that distance.

    As for the usual argument of old and/or disabled players being unable to continue the MSQ because of "great" difficulty, I'd be fully in favor of adding an option within Duty Support where, if a player dies to a boss, a button would appear that, when pressed, would resurrect them on the spot instantly and the boss would simply die instead, so they can continue as if they had won the encounter.

    This button would only appear with Duty Support and only if the player has never cleared the dungeon before. It would not appear on any subsequent re-runs of the same dungeon, after already clearing it once, even with Duty Support.


    In any case, I don't think that it's a valid argument to permanently hold back the possibility of dungeons being more engaging and more difficult for 99.9% of the players, because there's 0.1% of the playerbase who's disabled in some way that totally prevents them from clearing an Expert Roulette run.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    The problem with the current "difficulty" is that it doesn't rely on making healers actually heal unless someone is failing at mechanics.
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    the second they give healers more to heal majority of people would cry and moan about it, like they did it with meso terminal where you have an actual dangerous dots and stuff and people found it too hard on the second boss
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Quote Originally Posted by theunhappypotato View Post
    the second they give healers more to heal majority of people would cry and moan about it, like they did it with meso terminal where you have an actual dangerous dots and stuff and people found it too hard on the second boss
    Then let them die and learn. They've had 4 expansions to learn what role skills are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    Then let them die and learn. They've had 4 expansions to learn what role skills are.
    Seconded. My favourite duty runs are those where I'm actually needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    Then let them die and learn. They've had 4 expansions to learn what role skills are.
    well yes but most people wil be like "BuT tHiS iS nOw SaVaGe" cause they cant afk through msq stuff anymore, i'd love for healers to get more todo but eh we'll just have to see in the end
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    I will lala-rp-walk to a person who complains and slap them. One esuna in a 10 second period.

    There is zero excuse when it comes to role skills. About as obnoxious as doing titan hard mode and having a 60 second damage down remain on you for its full duration, all because you were unlucky enough to be targeted for gaol.
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