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    I Miss Buying Mogstation Items

    I simply can't bring myself to do it anymore, no matter how badly I want something, because I care about the quality and longevity of FFXIV.

    While they certainly enhanced my game experience, the key factor that made me make purchases in the past was to support the game I loved. However it's become blatantly obvious over time that the cash flow generated by the mogstation isn't being re-invested into the game. Not to mention the last few...questionable choices they made with item drops and pricing.

    Do they really need us to boycott the cash shop to send a clear message? SE just seems wildly out of touch.
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    That's why no one will remember your name.

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    Going to agree that I find some of the additions lately to be relatively lackluster, personally.

    But I know several people who went "OMG KITTY" and dropped money on the Shag Cat without a second thought.
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    Im pretty sure mogstation money was never re-invested into the game. Paying the sub fee supports maintenance and updates and buying expansions supports future expansions. Buying digital items from the mogstation only supports the CEO's new yacht.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KilledByKangaroo View Post
    Im pretty sure mogstation money was never re-invested into the game. Paying the sub fee supports maintenance and updates and buying expansions supports future expansions. Buying digital items from the mogstation only supports the CEO's new yacht.
    They previously said that it went to data center equipment - stuff like the move from Montreal to California (which was a downgrade for the east coasters but an upgrade in server infrastructure), the EU data center, and the Oceania data center.

    Physical servers cost money. Data center maintenance costs money. Replacing the hardware every 3-5 years (when it goes out of commercial warranty) costs money.

    The extra money has never gone to the personnel for actual in game content or assets, as far as I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    They previously said that it went to data center equipment - stuff like the move from Montreal to California (which was a downgrade for the east coasters but an upgrade in server infrastructure), the EU data center, and the Oceania data center.

    Physical servers cost money. Data center maintenance costs money. Replacing the hardware every 3-5 years (when it goes out of commercial warranty) costs money.

    The extra money has never gone to the personnel for actual in game content or assets, as far as I know.
    The mogstation items like outfits and mounts are an inconsistent flow of money so they count it as a straight up profit. Subcription fees are a more consistent cash flow so thats whats used for data center maintenance and replacing hardware. They may have dipped into the mogstation money for the server transfer because that was a one time thing and they could use that as a selling point, but thats it and that was years ago.

    Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to justify their own decision to waste their money out of FOMO and delude themselves into thinking its for a good cause. Don't fall for it. Just pay the sub fee and buy the new expansions on launch and SE will be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KilledByKangaroo View Post
    The mogstation items like outfits and mounts are an inconsistent flow of money so they count it as a straight up profit. Subcription fees are a more consistent cash flow so thats whats used for data center maintenance and replacing hardware. They may have dipped into the mogstation money for the server transfer because that was a one time thing and they could use that as a selling point, but thats it and that was years ago.

    Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to justify their own decision to waste their money out of FOMO and delude themselves into thinking its for a good cause. Don't fall for it. Just pay the sub fee and buy the new expansions on launch and SE will be fine.
    It wasn't "years ago"

    It was a years long ongoing project. Dynamis data center wasn't even completed until last year, for Dawntrail's launch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinku_Tachi View Post
    It wasn't "years ago"

    It was a years long ongoing project. Dynamis data center wasn't even completed until last year, for Dawntrail's launch.
    Point still stands, but thanks for the in depth details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeithValkyrian View Post
    However it's become blatantly obvious over time that the cash flow generated by the mogstation isn't being re-invested into the game.
    Do they really need us to boycott the cash shop to send a clear message? SE just seems wildly out of touch.
    It has been obvious for, at the very least, ten years but the more people who finally wake up, the better. SE has been way too comfortable and disrespectful with its fanbase for a very, very long time.
    Will they get better? Probably not, they will rely on easy psychological manipulation like the cat mount. They clearly know people can't resist cats for some reason, everyone knows it. They even probably have FFVII nostalgia baiting up their sleeve for 8.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KilledByKangaroo View Post
    Im pretty sure mogstation money was never re-invested into the game. Paying the sub fee supports maintenance and updates and buying expansions supports future expansions. Buying digital items from the mogstation only supports the CEO's new yacht.

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    More cool feline mounts in game for starters, Centurio Tiger, Aerturna, the tank panthers and sabertooth for starters that is.
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