What the hell were they thinking with Occult Crescent treasure chest rewards?

[Jangles]

Before any of you start saying how I don't like people having easier access to rare stuff I own, no I have almost none of the rare rewards from old exploratory zones.

It is insane to me that they thought giving such easy and no effort access to rewards like Gabriel Mk.III or the Eldthurs and many more sought after cosmetic rewards was a good idea. Hell even the new rewards like the hairstyle and the shark mount are ridiculously common not even 1 week into the zone.

It's fun to have sought after items with low drop rate and it gives people reason to go back to old content in search of it. The game already has a problem with old content dying out over time and this is just another nail on that problem.

And no rare cosmetic items and relic weapons are not the same thing before anyone starts going "but what about that other rng!!!!"

[Gurgeh]

I don't feel strongly about this bit I do agree. It's like there is some weird cult of hating compromise, moderation, or the middle ground.

You give casual players nothing for anything, except on rare occasions when you leave it on the floor for them to earn by pressing X. Then on the other end of the spectrum you make people jump from casual to Ex, where you have to do 300 pulls for 100 rewards and you 'still' keep them waiting until that very content is old.
You give casual brain dead alliances... then you give them Chaotic phase 2.
WTF.
It's like there is something in the water coolers.

I picked up a mount like this in my second chest, and i haven't even bothered to see what it is because it was so devalued, it felt like an insult to me as a casual player actually. (Only a small insult though). However, I'm not a good indicator. I haven't cared about mounts anyway since facing off with Exs and unsubbing. I dont consider myself representative.
No way I'm ever going to farms chests just on my own for rare mount drops though. I barely even technically unlocked moon thingy. Pressing X just doesn't do it for me.

[Ankhira]

I don't think this is an issue. I got Bozja and Eureka mounts before this content dropped and I feel happy for people who can get some mounts they couldn't get through sheer RNG bad luck or time commitments. I did over 100 Dalriada runs and I never saw the Deinonychus drop, a friend gave me one, so if it means people can get these mounts easier, I'm all for it. Sooner or later they'd have shown up on the moogle treasure trove anyway.

The mounts are just a low drop from content that takes a while to do, hope to win it from bunny chests, spam dalriada, spam DR (sit in que for 10 minutes), it gets boring after x amount of runs. I don't mean this aimed at you, but I have seen people in game complain about it and for the most part I think they are just upset about the fact that the prices tanked or that their "prestige" is lessened now.

[AvoSturmfaust]

The issue is they just messed up the loot tablet and switched bronze with gold rewards, i really cant imagine otherwise because gold chests gives only materia while bronze gives the rarest mounts? nah uh thats guaranteed a bug, so just farm before they fix it


and as gold chest reward it would be completly fine to have such items out of it, people still talking about "it kills bozja and eureka" na it doesnt, because bozja is still the best way to level jobs and is still needed for the relic, while for eureka people do it most of the time anyway only for cassie drops and the rare fate drops which arent in the OC lootpool

and for bunny fate and mounts like eldthurs like i said previous if they fix the lootpool and the mounts come only out of gold rewards its completly fine

[Jangles]

I don't think this is an issue. I got Bozja and Eureka mounts before this content dropped and I feel happy for people who can get some mounts they couldn't get through sheer RNG bad luck or time commitments. I did over 100 Dalriada runs and I never saw the Deinonychus drop, a friend gave me one, so if it means people can get these mounts easier, I'm all for it. Sooner or later they'd have shown up on the moogle treasure trove anyway.

The mounts are just a low drop from content that takes a while to do, hope to win it from bunny chests, spam dalriada, spam DR (sit in que for 10 minutes), it gets boring after x amount of runs. I don't mean this aimed at you, but I have seen people in game complain about it and for the most part I think they are just upset about the fact that the prices tanked or that their "prestige" is lessened now.

Well it's not really about prestige or value IMO, when I saw an eldthurs in the wild I would think "oh wow that's fucking cool" now it's just "cool I guess they got it in 30 seconds in OC". Rare stuff that are specific to certain content is always nice to see, it makes things fun and people can display to others what sort of content they put their time in. Moogle treasure trove is another problem I think, rather than things unique to that event they just recycle stuff people put time into getting. Handing out rewards to people for not doing anything is not fun for anyone, not the person who gets it because they didn't even attempt to get it just clicked on a random chest and not for anyone seeing an item that used to be rare but is not just a common thing.

It's honestly also kind of demotivating too because why bother trying to get a certain item when square enix is likely to just drop you one for free down the line whenever they get bored and don't wanna bother designing a new mount or outfit.

Also what is a Gabriel or Eldthurs doing in OC, completely random unrelated drops. (I know this isn't unique to OC, this has been a problem before too)

[Infindox]

I don't think this is an issue. I got Bozja and Eureka mounts before this content dropped and I feel happy for people who can get some mounts they couldn't get through sheer RNG bad luck or time commitments. I did over 100 Dalriada runs and I never saw the Deinonychus drop, a friend gave me one, so if it means people can get these mounts easier, I'm all for it. Sooner or later they'd have shown up on the moogle treasure trove anyway.

The mounts are just a low drop from content that takes a while to do, hope to win it from bunny chests, spam dalriada, spam DR (sit in que for 10 minutes), it gets boring after x amount of runs. I don't mean this aimed at you, but I have seen people in game complain about it and for the most part I think they are just upset about the fact that the prices tanked or that their "prestige" is lessened now.

It has nothing to do with prestige and everything to do with the fact it's the removal of a reason to do the content it's from. It also completely devalues the mount to be useless to even sell on the mb. I enjoy when people are able to get mounts but there's a point when something becomes "too easy to get". I'm somewhat saddened that the shark mount is so easy to get because it's a cool design.

Moogle treasure trove is another problem I think, rather than things unique to that event they just recycle stuff people put time into getting. Handing out rewards to people for not doing anything is not fun for anyone, not the person who gets it because they didn't even attempt to get it just clicked on a random chest and not for anyone seeing an item that used to be rare but is not just a common thing.

Mog tomes is vastly different to me. You still have to do content to grab the items, you still technically have to grind a bit. The extreme mounts when they get put in there are woefully easy to unsync, and the savage mount they put in there at one point was as well. You also get exclusive items like the Falcon mount and the Inferno Jacket.

[Underscore]

Yeah, they've completely destroyed the value of these items. It removes incentives to play the content they originate from and insults the players who earned them.

The rebel coat has gone from 300k to 5k in the span of a week, and it's still going down.

[Ankhira]

Yeah, they've completely destroyed the value of these items. It removes incentives to play the content they originate from and insults the players who earned them.

The rebel coat has gone from 300k to 5k in the span of a week, and it's still going down.

How does it insult players? Did you enjoy getting the reward back when you did? Great! Others getting the reward now doesn't take that away.

[Thurmnmurmn]

This is all content from years ago now. I think bringing up older drops years later is perfectly fine.
Are they maybe a little too common and as someone else pointed out, swapped bronze and gold chest drop values? For sure!
But the fact it's those items that drop. I'm ok with that.

[Jeeqbit]

It's far from the first thread made about this. I don't like it but it's always happened. Bozja actually gave us a lot of rewards that previously held value, such as minions and dyes. The deep dungeons have always done this as well with their treasure systems. And the Grand Company coffers also do it for 3.0 and 4.0 rewards. Extreme mounts, Beast Tribe rewards and other rewards often get given via mog tomes and the rewards come from an increasingly higher expansion over time. We are probably approaching the point where Endwalker rewards will be included in mog tomes, such as Variant/Extreme rewards and maybe they'll even throw in Island Sanctuary and Criterion rewards.

As a mount collector, I've accepted that the rewards I get are rare and presitigous only at the time in many cases. Fortunately for me, I can still choose how I get it, if I am getting it late.