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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephremjlm View Post
    It's a true fact of the matter but your comment made me wonder, how much harder would it be for them to segement off data center updates based on the average player prime time?

    I almost feel like that should be pretty doable, with exceptions to major patch updates. Like idk im just riffing here, but I feel like this would be especially fair for them to have to figure out considering some of the bugs in these emergency patch updates are things that they should have been able to catch through quality testing. I think the unreal tomb drop rate not working properly comes to mind in the previous patch.

    I could be completely off in my assumptions here so feel free to correct any dumb opinion I just had lol.
    It would be fairier and imo, entirely doable. But I just can't see Square Enix, particularly, doing it. On their end, I imagine it would require a lot more scheduling than the usual Japanese working hours allow, which in turn leads to a lot of additional costs on the company's end to facilitate. I imagine based on what I've read on here before, as well, that there'd be some technical hang ups because of the limitations of the engine. Can't remember exactly how it goes, but even a small dialogue change seems to require a full on server shut down. On the quality control front, which I'm not impressed with in Dawntrail, I think it's likely that a staggered approach to updates would just lead to more clumsiness across the board.

    All in all, cost wise, I really wouldn't imagine it 'should' cost that much to facilitate, but every game company across the board seems to be in constant financial straits to the point opting for a staff vending machine is probably too much of an expense. I'd like to get back to a point, some day, where player goodwill trumps such things but eeeeeh. Eeeeeeh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haru304 View Post
    It would be fairier and imo, entirely doable. But I just can't see Square Enix, particularly, doing it. On their end, I imagine it would require a lot more scheduling than the usual Japanese working hours allow, which in turn leads to a lot of additional costs on the company's end to facilitate. I imagine based on what I've read on here before, as well, that there'd be some technical hang ups because of the limitations of the engine. Can't remember exactly how it goes, but even a small dialogue change seems to require a full on server shut down. On the quality control front, which I'm not impressed with in Dawntrail, I think it's likely that a staggered approach to updates would just lead to more clumsiness across the board.

    All in all, cost wise, I really wouldn't imagine it 'should' cost that much to facilitate, but every game company across the board seems to be in constant financial straits to the point opting for a staff vending machine is probably too much of an expense. I'd like to get back to a point, some day, where player goodwill trumps such things but eeeeeh. Eeeeeeh.
    Yeah fair enough, I see your point.
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    I wouldn't mind if they at least tried to do some maintenances during other time periods and not almost always when I've gotten home from work and settled down for some FFXIV. Heavens forbid they pick a JP evening slot for maintenance now and then...
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    You must be new...

    Every single major patch for the last 11 years has been followed by a hotfix server maintenance.
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    It's very easy for other regions to just say it's the best time to do things. We get screwed over every single time. 4 hour maintenance? Oh, its not that bad. Except it falls between 6-7pm and 10-11pm (if NZ) for us, so that's basically that night gone. So yea, over time, it gets frustrating. We are paying customers too, so those of us who are impacted want to complain about the time and occurrences of maintenance/hotfixes/patches whatever, just let us complain.
    Is anything going to change? No, but at least we can vent a little and find some support. But nah, we just trolling amirite?
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    It's weird times for us, but aren't most maintenances during standard work hours in Japan? So, the devs are working on it during their workday?

    Then, that's fine.
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    Yeah Yoshi P should do a live stream crying and saying sorry and then give us two months free would be nice. xD
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    Just for reference sake. This latest four hour maintenance would equate to roughly two cents. Even a full 24 hour maintenance is 53 cents. We're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to complain about this of all things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Nah, I'm not hoping for any compensation out of this, it's just annoying that these things always land in the most inconvenient spot for me because I can typically only play late at night, lol.
    It's because Tokyo is roughly 13 hours ahead of EST. In other words, 2am EST is 3pm the following day for the dev team. So it sucks that your availability falls in that window, but it's standard working hours for Japan.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 08-09-2025 at 10:01 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    - OCE peak hours would be in an hour or two.

    So this time cleverly avoids those peak hours and the timing itself makes sense.
    I said in my post before, this lands smack bang in the middle of OCE peak.
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