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  1. #101
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    I think everyone is misinterpreting what people are saying by "Summoners can summon Ifrit, Garuda, Titan etc.".

    I think what they are referring to, including myself, is this:

    Ifrit and company are not pets. Carbuncle is a, however, more or less, a pet for mages.

    I would assume Carbuncle and friends work somewhat similar to how he/they did in FF XI, more or less.

    However, when you and your Linkshell/Free Company defeats Ifrit or any of the other numerous primals in the realm, the "Summoner" in the party can be the only job that summons him, as intended, for the rest of the party as either a 15 min, or a Limit Break, or hwoever they plan on doing it.

    It would seem rather silly seeing a dragoon summon Ifrit after all, wouldn't it? :P
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    Last edited by Leonesaurus; 08-18-2012 at 04:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonesaurus View Post
    I think everyone is misinterpreting what people are saying by "Summoners can summon Ifrit, Garuda, Titan etc.".

    I think what they are referring to, including myself, is this:

    Ifrit and company are not pets. Carbuncle is a, however, more or less, a pet for mages.

    I would assume Carbuncle and friends work somewhat similar to how he/they did in FF XI, more or less.

    However, when you and your Linkshell/Free Company defeats Ifrit or any of the other numerous primals in the realm, the "Summoner" in the party can be the only job that summons him, as intended, for the rest of the party as either a 15 min, or a Limit Break, or hwoever they plan on doing it.

    It would seem rather silly seeing a dragoon summon Ifrit after all, wouldn't it? :P
    that's a pretty good way to reconcile whats been said actually.
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    Last edited by gahoo; 08-18-2012 at 05:06 AM. Reason: edited quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vingtdeux View Post
    "Strongly hinted at" then if you prefer.
    No.

    Yoshida doesnt want them "cheapened" by having everybody be able to summon them, understandably. They might be hinting that summoners are the ones who can summon the primals for free companies though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madrox View Post
    No.

    Yoshida doesnt want them "cheapened" by having everybody be able to summon them, understandably. They might be hinting that summoners are the ones who can summon the primals for free companies though.
    Oh you know what Yoshida wants or doesn't, lucky you.

    Why couldn't they be "mini" versions of them, their essence materialized in the form of pets by the Summoner ? We don't know much at this point, and I corrected my own post about "confirmation".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonesaurus View Post
    I think everyone is misinterpreting what people are saying by "Summoners can summon Ifrit, Garuda, Titan etc.".

    I think what they are referring to, including myself, is this:

    Ifrit and company are not pets. Carbuncle is a, however, more or less, a pet for mages.

    I would assume Carbuncle and friends work somewhat similar to how he/they did in FF XI, more or less.

    However, when you and your Linkshell/Free Company defeats Ifrit or any of the other numerous primals in the realm, the "Summoner" in the party can be the only job that summons him, as intended, for the rest of the party as either a 15 min, or a Limit Break, or hwoever they plan on doing it.

    It would seem rather silly seeing a dragoon summon Ifrit after all, wouldn't it? :P
    This does make sense. I would hope they'd give SMN something other than Carby and some elemental sprites to play with in the mean time though. If they were only good for summoning the primals for Free Companies well... I wouldn't bother.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by gahoo View Post
    that's a pretty good way to reconcile whats been said actually.
    I went back and cleaned my post up a bit so it's easier to understand. This is all just speculation though, as intended. I could be deader than a doornail wrong, but I guess we'll find out eventually!

    I'd just like to throw out that I pretty much called out months ago on here in an old, old post (way back when Urianger Augerelt was being controlled around by the GM at Camp Horizon and the Grand Company intro quests) that Arcanist would most likely be the class that turns into Summoner down the road. Guess I was right in the long run! Hah hah

    I mean it made the most sense to me with the fact that he summoned familiars at the player. (Drake, raptor, and that peiste)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vingtdeux View Post
    Oh you know what Yoshida wants or doesn't, lucky you.

    Why couldn't they be "mini" versions of them, their essence materialized in the form of pets by the Summoner ? We don't know much at this point, and I corrected my own post about "confirmation".
    Lucky me?
    Lucky everybody who read the interview.. lol

    How come I get to be the lucky one.

    Cheapen was his words, why don't you do your homework before replying to people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madrox View Post
    Lucky me?
    Lucky everybody who read the interview.. lol

    How come I get to be the lucky one.

    Cheapen was his words, why don't you do your homework before replying to people.
    As we've seen though, Yoshida is rectifying things he's said as development furthers.
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    Maybe Primals are a higher tier of summon than what's possible for one summoner to control, hence a group being required to use them. You can see in storyline cutscenes how many Ama'jaa it took to summon Ifrit. Expecting your character to have equal power to 4 or 5 beastman summoners using a crapload of crystals to aid them is egotistic and silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    As we've seen though, Yoshida is rectifying things he's said as development furthers.
    Yes, but that has been for little things... like chocobos jumping...

    He wanted to design the primal fights/GC Summons around the fact that they were the big bad ones, and leave the little guys open for possible job summons. That is pretty major thing to change without notice, if it wasnt for that I would agree that the primals could possibly be summoned.

    Edit: with the chocobos being able to jump, I think that was more along the lines of saying nothing since his last statement and leaving it for a surprise for everybody.
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