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    Inconsistent capitalization in Occult Crescent

    Hello!
    This is a very minor issue I found, I don't think it has been reported yet?
    In the menu to access to Occult Crescent when speaking to Jeffroy, "South Horn" is not capitalized like usual. If we are to add new locations later on, it would be nice to have them all capitalized correctly to avoid inconsistency! ^^





    Sorry in case this has been reported before, I did my best to look for previous posts mentioning Occult Crescent, I might have missed it.
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    Quoting myself from the other topic on this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Zero-ELEC View Post
    That's not a typo or localisation issue; whenever people refer to it in sentence it is always "south horn", all lower case. It's not the name of a place, it's a description. The menu option is simply in sentence case. The localisation is very particular about capitalisation of things that aren't proper names when not in title case, you can also discover this by emoting at any character that has a name that is descriptive, for example.

    Words over characters heads (their "nameplate"), duty titles in duty menus, field and location names in teleport menus and notices, minion and mount names, and things of similar nature, are all depicted in title case. These can have different capitalisation in sentence case. See the outskirts being rendered "The Outskirts" when in the teleport menu, but being rendered "the outskirts" when characters talk about it. Or take a look at the Mogpendium next time there's an objective in places like "western Thanalan", or read a minion or mount description when they don't have proper nouns for names.

    For example, observe this: The key item is an "elite Veteran Clan mark bill" as depicted in sentence case, but when hovered over it's an "Elite Veteran Clan Mark Bill" as depicted in title case.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zero-ELEC View Post
    The thing is when there's multiple options in a menu when speaking to an NPC (in "what would you like to say?"/"what would you like to do?" type things) the options tend to be sentences, which is the case here; your character is either journeying to the south horn, asking for more information, reviewing their own knowledge (opening the help menu), or reviewing their phantom jobs (opening the phantom job menu).

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    Regardless, I guess depending on which current of English language rules you follow, you might capitalise the first word after a colon, but I don't think that's the standard. From what I understand, American English can capitalise after the colon but does not tend to, while British and Commonwealth English does not do that, as a rule, unless it's a proper noun. Would you it look better/more appropriate if it it were written "Journey to the Occult Crescent's south horn." or "Journey to the Occult Crescent: South horn."?
    In short, the place name is descriptive and not a proper noun, written English does not as a rule capitalise words after colons, and those menu options are in sentence case. All locations, instances, items, and NPCs have internal names that are in sentence case. In the case (ha) of this instance, it's sentence case rendition is "the Occult Crescent: south horn". As such it would be incorrect to capitalize south horn.
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    Hi sorry I'm only seeing your resourceful answer just now! I'm used to playing games where a /lot/ of things are capitalized which is very different from my native language so I've grown used to seeing capitalization everywhere in English. Despite working in Localization QA myself, I was not aware that different capitalization rules for English existed! So I'm glad I learned something through your quotes. Thank you!!
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