Can we please

[LegendWait]

If item level is preventing players who cant do the bare minimum of gear maintenance from entering a duty, then its working as intended.

Don't want to carry a collection of dead players and make a 45 minutes instance last 75 minutes only for those to get all the cards minion and rolls that they will never enjoy.

Also don't want gear item level to disappear as if all duty should be like unreal fights.

Does that makes me an elite asshole? Probably but at this point its on them to do the bare minimum work to function in the game.

They had weeks of early notice to come back and grind to prepare, its on them.

[Ephremjlm]

If item level is preventing players who cant do the bare minimum of gear maintenance from entering a duty, then its working as intended.

Don't want to carry a collection of dead players and make a 45 minutes instance last 75 minutes only for those to get all the cards minion and rolls that they will never enjoy.

Also don't want gear item level to disappear as if all duty should be like unreal fights.

Does that makes me an elite asshole? Probably but at this point its on them to do the bare minimum work to function in the game.

They had weeks of early notice to come back and grind to prepare, its on them.

Half of what I have to say to you is probably what I already said to the other person.

1. Wasting weeks of your life running daily old lvl 50 dungeons doesn't make you a better player it wastes your life.
2. How does being able to trade dungeon gear make ilvl dissapear? I genuinely don't understand.
3. Carry a collection of dead players? I come back after months of not playing and will do enough dps with lesser gear as a tank to hold main tank position without having to provoke. Please, this game isn't that hard, you're not a god gamer for being good at FFXIV.
4. This isn't YOUR game, so you don't get to dictate the level at which people need to "enjoy" the items they get.

[Connor]

Where did I say 1 mil for the full set!? We're talking 700k for a single piece in some instances. Do you people even know what you're talking about before you criticize?

I personally don't craft or gather. It's not fun to me. My retainers don't constantly have 3-4 mill. Maybe 35k-100k. I think when people say this they expect people to play the game as much as they do, and it is completely missing the point that I mentioned. ALL OF US, JUST CAME BACK. Some longer than others and needed full gear sets. You do the math. The cheapest thing we bought yesterday was a single piece for 300k.

Ok I’m sorry but in what world is an Ilevel 740 single piece worth 700k?!

Literally every piece is between 100-200K in my server. I genuinely find it hard to believe prices are that inflated across servers.

Are you sure you weren’t looking at the weird augmented gear that’s barely ever in stock except at ridiculous prices? I don’t really think they’re meant to be bought; you can do just as well with the cheaper normal ilvl740 crafted gear.

[Ephremjlm]

Ok I’m sorry but in what world is an Ilevel 740 single piece worth 700k?!

Literally every piece is between 100-200K in my server. I genuinely find it hard to believe prices are that inflated across servers.

Are you sure you weren’t looking at the weird augmented gear that’s barely ever in stock except at ridiculous prices? I don’t really think they’re meant to be bought; you can do just as well with the cheaper normal ilvl740 crafted gear.

Yeah it's insane. There isn't much gear up so my guess is that that is the reason why it's expensive. Some of the Jewlery was literally 1.5 Mil thats why we were hopping worlds.

[Jeeqbit]

1M can be a lot to get if you don't actively play the game between patches but they should also have been aware of that when they returned to the game and maybe returned a few days before to do some content and get gear from normal raids, dungeons, etc.

It's also the case that most FCs have a crafter that can make or has made some gear, so that they either wouldn't need to buy it or they'd have the gil to buy it. I've never been in an FC that does not have one of these, ever, so your FC seems like an outlier.

Moreover, submarines and airships exist for the purpose of FCs making huge sums of gil in order to help their FC members, so you could look into those.

Literally every piece is between 100-200K in my server. I genuinely find it hard to believe prices are that inflated across servers.

They were that inflated on my server actually (1M), because people bought them on a mass scale to augment them. If I wasn't lazy I could have world visited for a better price though.

[Boblawblah]

1M can be a lot to get if you don't actively play the game between patches but they should also have been aware of that when they returned to the game and maybe returned a few days before to do some content and get gear from normal raids, dungeons, etc.

It's also the case that most FCs have a crafter that can make or has made some gear, so that they either wouldn't need to buy it or they'd have the gil to buy it. I've never been in an FC that does not have one of these, ever, so your FC seems like an outlier.

Moreover, submarines and airships exist for the purpose of FCs making huge sums of gil in order to help their FC members, so you could look into those.

They were that inflated on my server actually (1M), because people bought them on a mass scale to augment them. If I wasn't lazy I could have world visited for a better price though.

1 million is definitely a lot for me, I generally have around 1.5 - 2 million max, so blowing most of that on gear just to do the newest content can be frustrating, but honestly, I just do the older dungeons for practice to get my chops back (what chops I have :3) and bonus, I get the gear I need.

[BlisteringFrost]

A lot of reasonably polite crafters will make you a whole set for free if you supply a specific requisite material.

Don't wanna work? Then don't feel entitled to be in a raid where the game itself is telling you to get better gear, or you will be gatekept from it. By the game.

[Ephremjlm]

A lot of reasonably polite crafters will make you a whole set for free if you supply a specific requisite material.

Don't wanna work? Then don't feel entitled to be in a raid where the game itself is telling you to get better gear, or you will be gatekept from it. By the game.

Thanks for the worthless comment because guess what, we weren't gatekept from anything. The game is designed for people to hop back in and play immediately and with an arbitrary barrier, we still did.

I hope that thought continues to make people like you and the others who think their way to play is the only way, mad, because the reality is that most of you people are the ones who got this game in the state that it's in.

Also, My gear was 745 so I was good. Again I was helping others. But you would have known that if you would have actually read my post and didn't start seeing red the second you felt your personality, aka the game get critiqued for literally any reason at all.

[AmiableApkallu]

Unless this was your first time playing a patch on release, the fact that item level requirements just went up should have been no surprise.

From the moment 7.2 released four months ago, attaining 725+ has been a possibility via various means. If y'all wanted to just jump straight into 7.3 without worrying about gearing up first, there was plenty of time to prepare.

Now, if you don't like FFXIV's gear treadmill, fair enough. But making dungeon gear tradable doesn't really fix that — it just means fewer people spending more time grinding it out.

[Ephremjlm]

Unless this was your first time playing a patch on release, the fact that item level requirements just went up should have been no surprise.

From the moment 7.2 released four months ago, attaining 725+ has been a possibility via various means. If y'all wanted to just jump straight into 7.3 without worrying about gearing up first, there was plenty of time to prepare.

Now, if you don't like FFXIV's gear treadmill, fair enough. But making dungeon gear tradable doesn't really fix that — it just means fewer people spending more time grinding it out.

Again I think this comment completely misses the point here.

1. We are encouraged by Yoshi P. himself to take breaks and come back for patch content. First and foremost. If anyone wants to disagree with that we can have the fight I guess.
2. The people i'm talking about were gone longer than 7.2, hence why we were helping them. There obviously wasn't plenty of time to prepare because when they came back was when they came back. Idk their lives, but if they are adults with responsibilties outside of the game then who knows.
3. Making the dungeon gear tradable would have literally fixed the issue i'm talking about. I never mentioned fixing the gearing treadmill. But as a side note, less of a grind of having to do old content done a billion times with less of our combat kits? I feel like without realizing it you just suggested making the game more enjoyable as a whole.