Here we go again

[Mawlzy]

And yet, OSRS and WoW are significantly harder gamers and have far more active players.

I'd suggest difficulty is somewhat subjective. And WoW has difficulty levels one can choose.

More to the point, perhaps, FFXIV is failing on multiple fronts, thereby driving down player numbers. When there are simple solutions to retain less-skilled players, it seems odd not to implement them.

[Altina_Orion]

I'd suggest difficulty is somewhat subjective. And WoW has difficulty levels one can choose.

More to the point, perhaps, FFXIV is failing on multiple fronts, thereby driving down player numbers. When there are simple solutions to retain less-skilled players, it seems odd not to implement them.

True, but normal mode on ffxiv is equivilant to normal on wow. I would argue that Normal on WoW is often times harder than normal on ffxiv. Wow has Heroic and Mythic+ as well. It really only goes up from here.

[Wasselin]

It really is that simple and would allow MSQ content to be made more difficult for those who want it. But for a mysterious reason, some who lobby for harder dungeons reject this and other possibilities out of hand. Apparently they would rather drive people from the game.

Honestly, it's not a mystery at all. Some people get their sense of superiority from being able to do things others can't. It's just gatekeeping.

I was once young too and thought that I would have a sharp mind that can easily dodge mechanics forever, but sadly, that's apparently not in the cards for me. While I can do this dungeon now, it's not too hard for me to imagine a time when it will be a real challenge. Who does it hurt to add something like the echo buff when you wipe in duty support so that if you are banging your head on the wall you can still get past it?

I want to play FFXIV for as long as I can. It doesn't hurt anyone to make it more accessible be providing more variable difficulty in single player modes.

[Canadane]

I just did the dungeon for the first time and I'm unsure what the difficult part was actually supposed to be.
It didn't seem harder or easier than most others.

[Mesarthim]

I just did the dungeon for the first time and I'm unsure what the difficult part was actually supposed to be.
It didn't seem harder or easier than most others.

If anything the second boss is subject to tank solos. I did it my first run, second run was an inprog to wait for it... a tank with 3 of them at the same time. Aside from their first one they do no damage to tanks. It's creative at least.

But hey we got those phoenix downs now right.

[MaikoRaines]

I just did the dungeon for the first time and I'm unsure what the difficult part was actually supposed to be.
It didn't seem harder or easier than most others.

I think some people confuse "mechanics" with "Difficulty."

[Yushees]

Dungeon boss was fun and felt original. We need more of this. Stop with this non-sense where everything has to be braindead easy. It's ok to wipe and learn from your mistakes.

[Wilford111]

This is kind of a weird thread. If you look at the tells for the aoes, they aren't any quicker than any other standard telegraph. I always wonder if these people are looking at the bright orange telegraphs that show up for a fraction of a second, not being able to react to that, and blaming it on old age... rather than looking at the correct telegraph which would be the blades, spiked balls, etc.

[Mawlzy]

This is kind of a weird thread. If you look at the tells for the aoes, they aren't any quicker than any other standard telegraph. I always wonder if these people are looking at the bright orange telegraphs that show up for a fraction of a second, not being able to react to that, and blaming it on old age... rather than looking at the correct telegraph which would be the blades, spiked balls, etc.

I'm getting the tells off the objects. I find it difficult to see them when they first drop because of the mess the boss is producing. Consequently I accumulate too many vuln stacks.

Then you practise. Simple

15 wipes was enough practice, thank you.

I realize doing the same repetitive task over and over is normal for those of you prog EX+. For many of us who don't, it is simply frustrating and boring.

Then play animal crossing. This is an MMO with combat and gameplay, there shouldn't need to be a brain dead "I win" mode

There is no "winning" in an MMO. You engage with the world. You're thinking of single-player games that must be "beaten."

[Hanzz96]

I'm getting the tells off the objects. I find it difficult to see them when they first drop because of the mess the boss is producing. Consequently I accumulate too many vuln stacks.

Then you practise. Simple