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    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Guy Friedman
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlisteringFrost View Post
    That's nice but...

    "Git gud" exists for a reason.
    Not really. If you encounter a situation like that you have another option and it's one that's considerably more financially damaging to the company that made that game I'm just saying.

    It's not that hard of a choice honestly if you got stuck. There are loads a games I dropped because they got boring or too hard.

    To save you the time writing a response I just blocked you. Have a nice day
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    Kohashi's Avatar
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    That's what it ultimately boils down to. Hardcore players aren't satisfied with the content that's already exclusive to them, they want the WHOLE GAME to be like, Extreme-tier or higher and don't care who gets filtered out as a result, or even think that's a good thing for the game overall because they genuinely believe casuals "ruined everything".

    Chaotic and Forked Tower, if not Dawntrail as a whole, just made them really comfortable with being mask off with how they really feel because the developers themselves are catering wholly to them right now, even prioritizing the budget to hardcore content apparently.
    And who would those "hardcore gamers" be, to even care about a bunch of irrelevant dungeons?

    As for Chaotic, the mechanics and difficulty were fine, a step above EX but below savage. What made it harder were the number of people needed for it and the high inconsistency coming from players. God forbid people took the correct tower or stand in their correct alliances, or not get doomed a million times/run or doom a bunch of people, including themselves.
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    JadeCurtiss's Avatar
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    Naoto Seijima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    That's what it ultimately boils down to. Hardcore players aren't satisfied with the content that's already exclusive to them, they want the WHOLE GAME to be like, Extreme-tier or higher and don't care who gets filtered out as a result, or even think that's a good thing for the game overall because they genuinely believe casuals "ruined everything".

    Chaotic and Forked Tower, if not Dawntrail as a whole, just made them really comfortable with being mask off with how they really feel because the developers themselves are catering wholly to them right now, even prioritizing the budget to hardcore content apparently.
    As people pointed out above, it's really exhausting to repeatedly endure misrepresentational arguments like this. You think I like being lumped in with extremist outliers? Blanket statements made in bad faith are what "ruin everything".
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    theunhappypotato's Avatar
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    Luci Thish
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    Lich
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    That's what it ultimately boils down to. Hardcore players aren't satisfied with the content that's already exclusive to them, they want the WHOLE GAME to be like, Extreme-tier or higher and don't care who gets filtered out as a result, or even think that's a good thing for the game overall because they genuinely believe casuals "ruined everything".

    Chaotic and Forked Tower, if not Dawntrail as a whole, just made them really comfortable with being mask off with how they really feel because the developers themselves are catering wholly to them right now, even prioritizing the budget to hardcore content apparently.
    you have to be baiting at this point and i love every second of it lmao please keep going
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    I feel like elitism is running wild on a thread where all that was asked was an easier mode. Not a change to what you had or what you can do, but an easier mode because it was too hard for them. Or me, hell that new alliance raid sucks. I don't want to do it again. I did not find it fun. But I'm also not you guys. I don't want everything always to be as hard as possible. I do think they've lost what fun is in terms of content or job design.
    The reason they won't add an easier mode is it essentially defeats the intended purpose of Trusts. They aren't supposed to be an "I win" button, but a means of letting you go at your own pace without bothering other players or be bothered by them. If they made it so easy you couldn't fail, you run the risk people stop queuing with randoms because bots guarantee them a clear. On the flipside, it will almost undoubtedly lead to friction if players who typically run Trusts start to queue in normally, but now only have experience with the easier mode.

    Regardless, there is an easy mode if your sole objective is to clear for the MSQ. Pick a tank, specifically Warrior or Paladin. You are invisible. Seriously. I did the second boss of the new dungeon with 5 vulns and nothing came even remotely close to killing me. You can make all the mistakes in the world and you're fine.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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    Wiccan Ghost
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Don't think this is an age thing. It's definitely a state of mind thing. There was a study done on older gamers that showed that reaction time and mental agility is pretty much the same as younger gamers. The issue is that older people tend to be more stressed out and or tired and that does impact your ability to play optimally. Green Tea helps with calming and focusing cuz of the L-Theanine until they decide to fix their content to allow everyone to have fun.
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    Rokanon Agat
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    Malboro
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100

    Some oldsters still do it

    I'm turning 65 in less than 2 months, and I'm able to complete Meso Terminal and have fun doing it. But that's me. I don't judge anyone, but sometimes, generalizations aren't always accurate. =P

    A couple of takes on it:
    Age isn't always what's holding you back.
    There's nothing wrong with saying a piece of content isn't for you, regardless of what age you are or what you play, or whatever.
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    People really need to get over themselves with their victim complex. Saying people want the entire game to be extreme or higher is such a reach.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    People really need to get over themselves with their victim complex. Saying people want the entire game to be extreme or higher is such a reach.
    It's the people who got a little too comfortable with all content below extremes being baby easy in Endwalker.
    And since they never experienced or don't remember anything else they automatically assume that the game being harder than baby easy must mean it's extreme or savage difficulty.

    Well, that and it's an attempt to give what they're saying more weight.
    Saying we want everything to be savage difficulty is, at first glance, more convincing than saying we want the game's content to at least not plateu around level 60, after you already played 100+ hours to reach max level.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 08-20-2025 at 10:11 AM.

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