Same communication & speculation mistakes?

[Laraul]

By being vague, Yoshi-P is creating rumors and speculation
And when people speculate they generate expectations
And when expectations are not met, most people experience disappointment

This is the exact same thought that went thru my head seeing all this stuff related to ARR. The game looks like a tech demo, with all the lighting and fancy shadows and what not. Where is the scalability? Why does the game look so much more graphically intense than the current game? And what about showing the game being played with a *large* number of people?

[Jacien]

If you are a fan of FF or any Square Enix game this should not be something you are unfamiliar with. Square are the worst for it but it is an industry wide problem. Developers fear us, we can be the harshest of critics. The internet is full of haters and trolls and those people always shout the loudest. I'll leave this article here which I think is very relevant to this. I know it's from Kotaku but trust me for once this is an excellent read.

http://kotaku.com/5928663/gamings-bi...-wants-to-talk

Hahahahahaha. Jason Schreier.

Now I advise you read Gabe from Penny-Arcade's thought on it: http://penny-arcade.com/2012/08/03

[Punainen]

So all this gameplay presentations and new art designs and Yoshi being interviewed by many gaming sites etc, isn't promoting?

Like what do you guys want? a commercial that plays a million times a day?? Clearly SE knows what they are doing.. they made a big mistake with initial launch but I am sure they know where they stand this time around..

I just want something where I don't have to get it through third party sources. All the information they're giving out is to people have have money and time enough to attend conventions (in other countries even), and as for the rest of us, they're hush-hush and only let us find out what attendees happen to record and give to the rest of us.

[Kaizlu]

I just want something where I don't have to get it through third party sources. All the information they're giving out is to people have have money and time enough to attend conventions (in other countries even), and as for the rest of us, they're hush-hush and only let us find out what attendees happen to record and give to the rest of us.

^^^ This

If it wasn't for shaky cellphone (most likely) cameras we wouldn't know about the video presentation.
If it wasn't for some guy playing around the website we wouldn't know about Summoner and Arcanist.
Then there's the beta sign up thing, some people are saying that they signed up on the EU conventions, yet SE (as far as I can remember) hasn't said anything about it.

And of course, this is only the start of their big "flood" of information, who knows what other crazy decisions will SE take.

If you are a fan of FF or any Square Enix game this should not be something you are unfamiliar with. Square are the worst for it but it is an industry wide problem. Developers fear us, we can be the harshest of critics. The internet is full of haters and trolls and those people always shout the loudest. I'll leave this article here which I think is very relevant to this. I know it's from Kotaku but trust me for once this is an excellent read.

http://kotaku.com/5928663/gamings-bi...-wants-to-talk

I'm confused. Kotaku is part of the whole "OMG ENTITLED GAMERS ARE RUINING THE INDUSTRY" group, yet they're publishing an article that's asking for *more* than what the game companies are giving us? I tend to avoid giving them clicks but lol at that post.

[Gramul]

I guess they're trying to not spoil the hype and release information slowly to keep the excitement alive.

But they are running the risk of being overly secretive.
Like you said:

Speculation > Expectation > Disappointment

[Punainen]

sooo where is that flood of info?

Guess all summer long is going to be the last day of summer.

:/ I wouldn't even feel disappointed if THEY hadn't claimed we'd have a FLOOD of information ALL SUMMER. Maybe if they said "SOME info at the END of summer" I'd be like 'chill out and wait like the rest of us', but they themselves claimed it would happen, and thus I am frowny faced at seeing it not happening. :C

[Nuru]

People didn't quit because of the speculations, they quit for their own reasons, and the game wasn't enjoyable for them.

[Inzoum]

sooo where is that flood of info?

Guess all summer long is going to be the last day of summer.

OH. MY. GOD.

Rokien said something I can agree with

[Risae]

S-E doesn't care about the core-gamers who already pay their monthly sub fee.
The hype train is only needed to get all the World of Warcraft population.
I mean, WoW + Final Fantasy = WHY CAN'T I HOLD ALL THESE SUBS?

[Mug]

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There needs to be away to downvote a player's ability to post new topics to the point where they are disabled from doing so, or erase their threads from the thread listing when placed on ignore.

I have Rokien and Azurymber both on my ignore list, yet, when I go into the general discussion section there are no fewer than 3 topics by them on the listing.

They're on my ignore list, I shouldn't have to see the thread they make. Their incessant thread making is the very issue I put them on ignore to begin with. They can effectively troll the entire forum this way without punishment.

This really is a pox on the forum community.

Posts like this are so unecessary. At the end of the day, it's just people's opinions. If you don't agree with it, you can either a) ignore the post or b) tell them your opinion on the matter. It's how forums work and if people can't handle that, then maybe they should just stay away from forums full stop.