Thread: Stop with the ego NA, JP AND eu dont have it.

NA Tanks Stop Screwing Up Mitigation in DSR

I’m done sugarcoating this. We’re in Dragonsong’s Reprise (Ultimate), and NA tanks keep acting like mitigation is optional. They refuse to use personal or group mits correctly, then get defensive when someone points it out. It’s ridiculous.

After Gigaflare, both tanks get hit by two Trinity Autos. Unmitigated, that’s 70–80k total, dropping you to 30% HP or worse if high-rolled. Use your personals properly, and you barely move — around 70–80% HP. It’s not complicated.

Tanks — Use Your Mitigations

WAR: Put Nascent Flash on your co-tank. You heal yourself, they take basically nothing. Healers can focus on you, not panicking over both tanks.

DRK: Oblation, then TBN after the second hit. The second hit hits harder; too early and it’s wasted.

PLD: Holy Sheltron after the first hit. Full mitigation + regen. Simple.

GNB: Heart of Corundum before the hits, Aurora after the second hit. You’re topped instantly.

Group Mitigation — Use It Right

Shake It Off (WAR) and Divine Veil (PLD) go after the first Gigaflare explosion. The regen triggers on the first explosion, the shield covers the second hit, and the third hit you take essentially nothing. Too early? Waste.

Wroth Flames (Phase 6): Shake, Veil, or Holos after the first or second flame. That’s when the group actually takes damage, so regen + shield value is maximized. Too early? Useless.

And when you correctly tell someone to use their cooldowns, they lose their minds. “Stop backseating.” “We lived.” No, you didn’t play it right. JP and EU tanks do this properly every pull. NA? Tanks drop to 20–30%, healers panic, cooldowns get blown, and the fight becomes chaos.

The difference when people do it right:

Trinity damage hits almost nothing.

Healers can heal proactively.

Shields and regen line up perfectly.

The fight feels smooth.

The difference when people do it wrong:

Tanks die to predictable damage.

Healers scramble and waste CDs.

The fight is messy and dangerous for no reason.

This isn’t ego. It’s not backseating. It’s basic competence. Press your buttons. Use your personal mits. Time your group cooldowns.

Do it right, and Trinity Autos hit like wet noodles. Do it wrong, and you’re the reason the run is stressful. Stop being stubborn. Stop being defensive. The only thing actually deadly here is the NA ego.

There are bad players everywhere, I doubt that bad tanks are somehow exclusive to NA. Maybe you should try getting better at picking mates ?

But I play on EU, so I guess wouldn't know.

Originally Posted by os12ispeak

NA Tanks Stop Screwing Up Mitigation in DSR

I’m done sugarcoating this. We’re in Dragonsong’s Reprise (Ultimate), and NA tanks keep acting like mitigation is optional. They refuse to use personal or group mits correctly, then get defensive when someone points it out. It’s ridiculous.

After Gigaflare, both tanks get hit by two Trinity Autos. Unmitigated, that’s 70–80k total, dropping you to 30% HP or worse if high-rolled. Use your personals properly, and you barely move — around 70–80% HP. It’s not complicated.

Tanks — Use Your Mitigations

WAR: Put Nascent Flash on your co-tank. You heal yourself, they take basically nothing. Healers can focus on you, not panicking over both tanks.

DRK: Oblation, then TBN after the second hit. The second hit hits harder; too early and it’s wasted.

PLD: Holy Sheltron after the first hit. Full mitigation + regen. Simple.

GNB: Heart of Corundum before the hits, Aurora after the second hit. You’re topped instantly.

Group Mitigation — Use It Right

Shake It Off (WAR) and Divine Veil (PLD) go after the first Gigaflare explosion. The regen triggers on the first explosion, the shield covers the second hit, and the third hit you take essentially nothing. Too early? Waste.

Wroth Flames (Phase 6): Shake, Veil, or Holos after the first or second flame. That’s when the group actually takes damage, so regen + shield value is maximized. Too early? Useless.

And when you correctly tell someone to use their cooldowns, they lose their minds. “Stop backseating.” “We lived.” No, you didn’t play it right. JP and EU tanks do this properly every pull. NA? Tanks drop to 20–30%, healers panic, cooldowns get blown, and the fight becomes chaos.

The difference when people do it right:

Trinity damage hits almost nothing.

Healers can heal proactively.

Shields and regen line up perfectly.

The fight feels smooth.

The difference when people do it wrong:

Tanks die to predictable damage.

Healers scramble and waste CDs.

The fight is messy and dangerous for no reason.

This isn’t ego. It’s not backseating. It’s basic competence. Press your buttons. Use your personal mits. Time your group cooldowns.

Do it right, and Trinity Autos hit like wet noodles. Do it wrong, and you’re the reason the run is stressful. Stop being stubborn. Stop being defensive. The only thing actually deadly here is the NA ego.

New to PF? I can count on 1 hand how many times I've met people who consistently use their mits (party mits included), and yes, that includes ultimates.

Personally, I am tired of sounding like a broken record, so I just let them die now..Failure is the best teacher after all.

JP literally has a public blacklist. You think they don't have egos over there?

OP, have you considered creating or joining a static?

I only do old Ex for mount farm, but anything beyond that is suffering, and I have zero expectations of anyone who will join me.

If they are not willing to improve and are dragging seven players down too much, for too long, I just kick them out and do not explain why because I have no requirement or obligation to do so. It is my group. I will do with it as I wish, within reason.

Sorry "but did you die?"

Honestly this just reads as complaining the grass looks greener while getting mad everyone isn't a hyper sweaty gamer with nerves of steel in the highest difficulty Yes, some of this is basic tanking knowledge, but if everyone screams at you for calling them out, is it actually a problem otherwise if the clears are coming? Just build a static or move to EU/JP servers.

As someone that plays on all four regions, yeah no.

I had a tank just some months ago get mad at a healer on JP in a dungeon cause the healer moved ahead to get the last pack when the tank, who had been pulling everything up till the last pack, just stopped for no reason. They chewed the healer out, even though no one died or even got close to dying. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.

Seen a post on the JP forum not too long ago ranting about tanks not having rights just because his party pulled ahead of him.

Originally Posted by Azurarok

Seen a post on the JP forum not too long ago ranting about tanks not having rights just because his party pulled ahead of him.

I don't blame him. You must've missed a thread about it a month ago. People seem to sincerely think tanks don't deserve any respect with their role whatsoever.