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  1. #21
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    yesnt's Avatar
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    Giddy Moonshine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Gentle reminder that with a subscription-based game, you can subscribe for however long or short you want to. There are plenty of people that just do 1-month subscriptions at a time and then let it expire if they don't find other stuff to do in-game. FFXIV has a veritable mountain of things you can do. Which doesn't mean any particular amount of it needs to appeal to you, but so many people around here seem to act as if content doesn't exist just because they personally don't like it. You've hopefully received plenty of value for your money throughout the time you've been subscribed. It doesn't entitle you to anything specific going forward.

    There's also a variety of ways people can express disapproval with something. Some ways are mature, reasoned, thoughtful critiques that give the developers specific ideas on how they might make the game appeal to a wider audience. Others are immature drivel just trashing everything and personally attacking the developers for what in the end simply amounts to making a different game than the complainer wanted. Guess which take is much, much, much more common on this forum...(and then act surprised when the dev team widely ignores this place).

    The simple reality is that it is not humanly possible to produce content at the rate some people will consume it. Heck, EW released with 60+ hours of content, and even with the login disasters that were locking people out, there were still people who finished everything within a week and then complained that there wasn't more new stuff to do. Thankfully, it's looking increasingly like the dev team has learned to just ignore those people and design their own game on their own reasonable schedule.



    This invalidates any point you might want to have. As soon as you start with the "I'm right, as long as you ignore everything that shows I'm wrong", you're just admitting you're wrong. So yes, MSQ counts. Alliance raid counts. Every bit of content that you personally don't find interesting counts.
    Well, if I do that then my FC will die and I won't have any reason to ever log in again. MMOs thrive on the social aspect and that's not something you can maintain logging in every couple of months as that kinda kills the whole vibe. Does that make sense to you?

    Also, I did the MSQ, the Alliance, some crafting and some PVP and it makes me feel like this is going to be some very long 4 months again until the next patch. It's not like I am rushing anything, I am doing one thing at a time.
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  2. #22
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    Hallarem Aurealis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    I stopped buying into "gosh guys, the devs just can't do it, they're swamped" when I found out how many YEARS Viera and Hrothgar had been going on without hats and yet there were third-party dark arts fixing it within days.

    If the argument is going to be that they were "busy" doing something else or have a "priority list" than why does so many other parts of the game feel undercooked or abandoned? WHAT are they busy with then? WHAT is at the top of this priority list?
    If they'd have anything resembling a plan, they would be showing us a roadmap.
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  3. #23
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    They specifically use the .05 model to double dip on subs. You all know it. The content is most likely done and sitting there ready to go. But if you phrase is at "We dont want to rush and overload the players!" suddenly it sounds almost nice.
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  4. #24
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    Zoh Chah
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallarem View Post
    If they'd have anything resembling a plan, they would be showing us a roadmap.
    Technically they do show you a roadmap of the current cycle for patches until 7.4. They just don't call it a road map.

    7.3 is the MSQ, alliance raid, pvp stuff, a torch for the EW deep dungeon.
    7.31 is the relics for battle content and also the cosmic exploration content.
    7.35 is the Yok Huy allied society and the Pilgrim's Traverse Deep Dungeon.
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  5. #25
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    Xiv needs to stop arbitrarily spreading out their patches and their expansions in general. Core features of an expansion should be frontloaded. If they want deep dungeon to be a strong leveling choice, it should be launching at 7.1 or 7.2 at the latest. Then when you've delivered on all the features you advertised the expansion on, you can use the later patches for all the goofy experimental stuff (chaotic, hildebrand trials, island sanctuary, variant dungeons, etc...)

    I'm sure they think they're keeping players around by dangling the carrot of promised content in front of them, but the reality is that people get fed up with waiting and leave until the feature they were waiting for is finally implemented, that is if they return at all and don't just move on to greener pastures. And you can see the situation we've found ourselves in now...
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    Last edited by Velthice; 08-10-2025 at 05:27 PM.

  6. #26
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    Lennath Aoran
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    Also note, as least as of the 7.3 website (they didn't even MENTION the relic phase like they did the new Cosmic Exploration/tools coming in 7.31 and the Manderville, Deep Dungeon, and Yok Huy Society quests coming in 7.35 on the Patch notes.) they didn't mention a new zone so the next phase could be something like just Light gathering and/or forced Forked Tower engagement, aka not new content per say.
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  7. #27
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    Saika Kinoshita
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    Mateus
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    it would be really funny if they force ft runs for the next relic step
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  8. #28
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    This invalidates any point you might want to have. As soon as you start with the "I'm right, as long as you ignore everything that shows I'm wrong", you're just admitting you're wrong. So yes, MSQ counts. Alliance raid counts. Every bit of content that you personally don't find interesting counts.
    Has nothing to do with whether or not I find it interesting and everything to do with that isn't what people are asking for when they're complaining about "no content".

    They're looking for things like:

    Deep Dungeons
    Crafter/Gather Relic progression
    DoW/DoM Relic progression
    A new set of raids
    Ultimate
    V/C
    Things like IS or new things added to the game like a new mode something we do not yet have
    Maps
    CAR

    MSQ and Alliance do not count to most people not because they don't find them interesting. Prior to this expansion I found them interesting. They do not count because they're BASE LINE CONTENT.

    Asking for a DD or Relic progression (ideally BOTH) ON TOP OF MSQ and w/e Alliance Raid/EX/Dungeon we get too is not much.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  9. #29
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Should be early October. The x.x5 patches are always about halfway through the patch cycle. Relics and the new Cosmic Exploration zone should be early September.
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  10. #30
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    Oh, my sincerest apologies. I completely forgot that SE and CBU3 are a scrappy little indie company, probably operating out of a garage with a shoestring budget of, what, $15? My mistake.
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