More Mog Station Items? Seriously?

[Shinku_Tachi]

yeah the playerbase asked for it. true... the very same people who want the opposite now.
every single person inside the community wanted it. they wanted a cash shop and also easier jobs... and the community still consists to 100% of these people. true true.

and also... how terrible to change your mind after all these years.

This will probably come as a shocker, but more than a vast majority of players who are around today were not playing in 2013/14. Very very few were. This is greed and nothing more

Considering the Mogstation has been getting regular spenders since it opened, it hardly matters if the players from back then are still around or not. Old spenders are replaced by new spenders.

We specifically asked for it as a means to obtain old event items, and those are actually very reasonably priced for the most part.

I don't know anyone who asked for $24 mounts.

I mean, that's what some of y'all were being specific about, sure. But it quickly became about more than that.

Others were also asking for a "namingway" which became our name change service, fantasias, gear that NPCs were wearing that we didn't have access to, and etc. People don't need to ask for "$24 mounts" for the MTX train to go off the rails and get there. Especially if you have willing spenders.

people asked for a cash shop because of old event items? really? wouldnt be the first and only thought to sell it ingame each year? maybe even as a gil sink?

You can buy that stuff at the recompense officer if you have the achievement, but yeah, if you missed an event, you were SOL when it came to old stuff.

[Gwen_Lavellan]

people asked for a cash shop because of old event items? really? wouldnt be the first and only thought to sell it ingame each year? maybe even as a gil sink?

My husband, who’s playing since 2013, told me the cash shop was also wanted for fantasia, because before the shop, you were given a strict number of those. So, if you messed up with a change on your character, you were done for it. (He remembers asking a GM to send a fantasia to him after he changed something on his midlander and was regretting that change. He got it, by the way.)

[Rinoa_353]

We specifically asked for it as a means to obtain old event items, and those are actually very reasonably priced for the most part.

I don't know anyone who asked for $24 mounts.

It is pricey but at least it's not the travesty that are glam pricing when it's accountwide which all purchases should be.

[Tint]

We specifically asked for it as a means to obtain old event items, and those are actually very reasonably priced for the most part.

I don't know anyone who asked for $24 mounts.

Why should we have been asking for that? Past event items were sold at a vendor for a few Gil when the event came around the next time.

And I quote: "Players can also speak with the Moonfire Faire vendor in each of the three city-states to purchase items available during previous iterations of the event."

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...oonfire_Faire/

I also got all the 1.0 event items for free in 2013 - 2014. For halloween 2014 the cash shop went up and we had to buy previous event items.

[Ephremjlm]

We specifically asked for it as a means to obtain old event items, and those are actually very reasonably priced for the most part.

I don't know anyone who asked for $24 mounts.

Does anyone else feel weird about this though? I mean hear me out.

We pay for our subs monthly, SE claims that this ongoing content is part of our sub. The event ends, and the items go immediately up on the store.

Isn't this just a way to scam players into paying for content they already paid for a second time? (or unlimited in some instances). Even worse don't they make the items untradeable so that they make individual characters have to buy them? And aren't they ususally not account wide?

Idk man that seems like one hell of a scam to me. I've done it in the past so im just as guilty as others but after actually thinking about it in Endwalker I stopped all purchases on the mog station.

I personally feel like these event items need to cycle (keeps it fresh) and they should always be obtainable in game given you are there for the event.

Like imagine how much more fun events would feel if you had items to farm since ARR. Idk I feel like that would be pretty fun and it would give players more to do, which the game currently really needs.

[Reimmi]

Personally, I'd rather everything be obtained in-game, and once upon a time, it was like that.

Unfortunately, the playerbase wasn't happy with that.

Back in 2013~2014 people were begging day-in and day-out, on these very forums, for a cash shop, so they could spend real money to buy in-game stuff.

Yoshi-P granted the community's wish, and here we are.

Somehow i doubt that, it's more like wow popularized the mount monetization in mmos and they just copied it

If dumb players thought that was the only way to get old event items btw, they deserve to be milked like cows
every other mmo has old event items added to a vendor you can buy stuff from with currency by participating in the event's minigames, rather than spend 10 minutes on a quest each year, or buy everything else for absurd prices on the store

[Mawlzy]

Somehow i doubt that, it's more like wow popularized the mount monetization in mmos and they just copied it

If dumb players thought that was the only way to get old event items btw, they deserve to be milked like cows
every other mmo has old event items added to a vendor you can buy stuff from with currency by participating in the event's minigames, rather than spend 10 minutes on a quest each year, or buy everything else for absurd prices on the store

One can make the same claim about those falling for scams from alleged Nigerian princes, but that doesn't alter the fact it's a scam.

[Little_Giant]

Gonna be more of this until the remaining players leave because lack of content and rewards, ending FFXIV.

[Loggos]

I guess it's a sign that I'm old and I just ~don't get the appeal~ of all those fancy, modern new monetarisation models but my boomer gaming take is that if you pay for a sub + expansion packs all that stuff from the cash shop should be obtainable in-game instead.

I could live with cosmetic expansion packs where you pay for a whole collection of (well-designed!/quality) items. Perhaps themed packs that give you a good bunch of cosmetics, emotes, mounts, minions and housing items in one purchase. Right now the price you'd pay for such an expansion only lets you buy 2, at most 3 cash shop skins.

[Aniya_Estlihn]

all that stuff from the cash shop should be obtainable in-game instead.

These items were never intended to be in game in the first place as the main development team doesn't work on the cash shop. As has always been, and will always be, the case.
If the shop didn't exist, their positions wouldn't exist and nor would the exclusive sets we see there. The most they really 'do' with the main game is tell YoshiP and the actual item team what their plans are so they don't conflict.

The really only indefensible thing is that NPC outfits, hairstyles, past events items, mounts of previous in game things, etc. get put on the shop when they absolutely should be in game rewards.
The unique things made by the cash shops item production team, however? Its whatever to me. I don't feel people should get mad over the fact a premium item that was made by a team that isn't even directly working on the game and its patches is sold for money.

Its kind of a nothing-burger when you know how the shop is set-up, funded, staffed, and has been run since its introduction in 2.4X
One could make the argument that they should just close the shop and bring those staff members onto the main team, but then we'd sacrifice concerts, infrastructure updates, fanfests, etc. as those are the things the shop funds.