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    Guthcat's Avatar
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    Guthcat Stormblessed
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    Halicarnassus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100

    It was a huge mistake to not give experience in Occult Crescent

    It's already a flop but at least I'd have reason to do OC if I could level my real classes (not phantom jobs) with it.
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    Anathema De'vice
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Just saw your post and wanted to say I agree! Look Devs, I love this game, but some decisions are truly confusing. I'm not sure why they didn't take the best parts of Bozja or Eureka (such as leveling xp or queuing for CEs) and add them into O.C. It seemed like a hugely missed opportunity as I really enjoyed leveling up my additional classes in Bozja, rather than just another round of running roulettes for old raids, or the same 3 daily quests.

    Regarding Classes - I had hoped to see jobs (like Geomancer) actually IN the game officially (sort of like Beastmaster and Blue Mage as actual real jobs too, sigh), so I'm not really thrilled with only getting phantom jobs to level up instead. It's great to see what they COULD do in theory, but it doesn't help with my actual xp needs.

    About the raid: there's a lot of "I'm only adding people who have run it before" going on in Shout Chat with the Forked Tower...so I can see it's about as popular as Baldesian Arsenal was to get into (and by that, I mean only the most hardcore need ever try to apply, like what happened with the recent Cloud of Darkness Chaotic raid that I don't see a lot of party finder for these days). Why the Devs decided to do that again, part two, I'll never know. But they really, really shouldn't have. Bozja was actually fun AND lucrative to run that raid, because everyone could queue and go in, and they had a well done raid that we actually finished quite a few times in there with few failures. No "join my discord" or "you need x number of runs" were required or necessary.

    Hopefully they will return to that next time, if they can't adjust it now.
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    Last edited by Anomini; 08-04-2025 at 11:26 AM.

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    PaulusHamsteru's Avatar
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    Finn Quinn
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    Zalera
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    Gladiator Lv 34
    I agree. I thought OC would be similar to Bozja, but it seems the devs have no idea what they're doing.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    They're not confident their 7.3 DD would stick well to their playerbase, so they had to 'downgrade' something else in the same expac to make sure it's not dead on first month lol.
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    Metra Surrik
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    Midgardsormr
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    They're not confident their 7.3 DD would stick well to their playerbase, so they had to 'downgrade' something else in the same expac to make sure it's not dead on first month lol.
    It's the wrong expectation on SE's part. These contents are crafted with the long game in mind, designed to remain engaging even after patch releases. The enduring popularity of field ops from previous expacs is a prime example of this. If they can't maintain player interest in a field op, what makes them think DD would?
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    Last edited by TeresaFortell; 08-04-2025 at 06:43 PM.

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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Which doesn't even make sense when you consider that, with over a year into the expansion, the majority of people are going to have most of their jobs at 100 anyway so they "held back" the content when it was too late to matter anyway[...]
    I think you're overestimating how much people actively levels their non-lv100 jobs. Anecdotally speaking from my PoV, I've seen more people who are happier to just not touch jobs they generally find unfun and thus missing out things like Amaro achievements if it means they have to run roulos or daily dungeons. Alternative ways of leveling helps these players to work on their less desired jobs outside mainline content where they'd otherwise not touch + give them some sense of side progression than just 'farming silvers/golds' in OC. I personally think they could've just give both OC and new DD job experience, & maybe have them rethink their approach instead of cannibalizing older content in order to shove people into their newer content (at least that's how it looks like to me).

    That being said, my initial post was a half jest lol.
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  8. 08-06-2025 10:48 AM

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    Elmind Exilus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Which doesn't even make sense when you consider that, with over a year into the expansion, the majority of people are going to have most of their jobs at 100 anyway so they "held back" the content when it was too late to matter anyway.
    The take you're responding to doesn't make sense because it's the usual jaded, bitter cynicism from this negative echo chamber that doesn't actually connect to reality. As you pointed out, most people will have leveled most of their main jobs by the team OC released...because it's not meant for leveling at all. It's meant as content for people to do on their lvl 100 jobs, while DD is intended as an alternate way of leveling jobs people haven't done yet (alongside the challenge of completing the entire DD perhaps on a job one is most comfortable with and has already leveled).
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    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Jessa Marko
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    Adamantoise
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    The take you're responding to doesn't make sense because it's the usual jaded, bitter cynicism from this negative echo chamber that doesn't actually connect to reality. As you pointed out, most people will have leveled most of their main jobs by the team OC released...because it's not meant for leveling at all. It's meant as content for people to do on their lvl 100 jobs, while DD is intended as an alternate way of leveling jobs people haven't done yet (alongside the challenge of completing the entire DD perhaps on a job one is most comfortable with and has already leveled).
    This would have been more reasonable had the OC capstone been accessible/non-savage content.
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