Housing is the biggest load of crap

[Khryseis_Astra]

I can get that, with you being on Mateus - that's been pretty full for years now, and I can only imagine the bid counts you guys must get on even a small.

When they combined everything into Crystal I know there were quite a few plots on the other servers like Goblin. Are all the wards on all the worlds on Crystal prtety much entirely taken these days?

We saw a good many open up from the last couple auto demo waves… 200 in the first lotto, and 400 opening up the day after it started on Bryn. But once those are taken up, I’m sure we’ll go back to the tons of bids even on smalls that we had before, as supply dries up again.

[Yuniko]

We saw a good many open up from the last couple auto demo waves… 200 in the first lotto, and 400 opening up the day after it started on Bryn. But once those are taken up, I’m sure we’ll go back to the tons of bids even on smalls that we had before, as supply dries up again.

this checks out hun <3

[Solowing]

We saw a good many open up from the last couple auto demo waves… 200 in the first lotto, and 400 opening up the day after it started on Bryn. But once those are taken up, I’m sure we’ll go back to the tons of bids even on smalls that we had before, as supply dries up again.

In a situation like that. I'm waiting to the last day of bidding and i'm looking for a small everyone's overlooking with no bids, in like gridonia

[Divinemights]

In the end, SE’s approach to the housing system is justified.
It’s fair to say that Yoshida has a solid understanding of the MMORPG ecosystem, where no game can sustain a massive player base beyond ten years.
Currently, on Leviathan, there are many small plots with no bidders, while all the bidding activity focuses on medium and large plots.
If housing demand were truly high, these smaller plots would be claimed immediately once demolitions begin again.

[s32ialx]

In the end, SE’s approach to the housing system is justified.
It’s fair to say that Yoshida has a solid understanding of the MMORPG ecosystem, where no game can sustain a massive player base beyond ten years.
Currently, on Leviathan, there are many small plots with no bidders, while all the bidding activity focuses on medium and large plots.
If housing demand were truly high, these smaller plots would be claimed immediately once demolitions begin again.

Or people want more space than a small. Because the two floors on a small are not even equally sized let alone limited to only 200 slots
among a plethora of other reasons why smalls just should not exist like how excruciatingly small the outside is and how much more limited the slots are on the outside.

You really have no right to tell people that they have to settle on a small and because they don't settle for a small their opinion, wants, needs are invalid.

[Divinemights]

Or people want more space than a small. Because the two floors on a small are not even equally sized let alone limited to only 200 slots
among a plethora of other reasons why smalls just should not exist like how excruciatingly small the outside is and how much more limited the slots are on the outside.
You really have no right to tell people that they have to settle on a small and because they don't settle for a small their opinion, wants, needs are invalid.

Are you arguing just for the sake of arguing?
You’re basically saying you want to run before you can even walk.
If a player really wants to get a house, the first step is to secure one — and right now, there are plenty available.
Greed usually gets you nowhere.
If what you’re saying is even close to true, then people really need to set their priorities straight.
The fact that many small plots have no bidders clearly shows there’s no crisis

[s32ialx]

You’re basically saying you want to run before you can even walk.
If a player really wants to get a house, the first step is to secure one — and right now, there are plenty available.
Greed usually gets you nowhere.
If what you’re saying is even close to true, then people really need to set their priorities straight.
The fact that many small plots have no bidders clearly shows there’s no crisis

Or it shows that the smalls are again not what people want save for a few the smalls just don't do it, I mean even ones with small like Khryseis below is literally saying they want addon rooms. I'm not going to argue their reason for wanting a small, nor their reason for not wanting a medium. what I will argue is you thinking that you like to pretend to act like you dictate what a player should 'start' with IE: Run before you walk. Why would I want to waste 3 mil on a small + the cost of the permit to build plus the time investment in decorating it when I don't even want a small. Sorry but the STATISTICS SHOW that more people want mediums or larges, and you are no one when it comes to deciding what and how they should bid. The fact is they should be looking at these stats and taking initiative to IMPROVE not stagnate and just keep building wards with smalls that only a few people want which clearly the majority want something bigger. That's the keyword, those bidding on mediums/larges are the majority, you heard that right? MAJORITY. you telling them that you're right and they are wrong for how they bid, is utterly laughable.

With how competitive the housing system is, getting your foot in the door is the most important step.
Once you have a house, you gain access and from there, you can always try to upgrade later, just like I did.

The only thing you GAIN from "getting your foot in the door" is a loss of gil for something you did not even want because you have bigger and better plans than a small can offer. even when the 'tardis' interior comes out the outsides are so limited it's really not worth it, I have had 3 smalls since 2015 and each time I hated them because they were so limited in what you can do, noo to mention it's absolutely aggravating that the top floor is almost half the size of the basement.

[Solowing]

A people trying to decorate a room or a biome?

[Divinemights]

Or it shows that the smalls are again not what people want save for a few the smalls just don't do it, I mean even ones with small like Khryseis below is literally saying they want addon rooms. I'm not going to argue their reason for wanting a small, nor their reason for not wanting a medium. what I will argue is you thinking that you like to pretend to act like you dictate what a player should 'start' with IE: Run before you walk. Why would I want to waste 3 mil on a small + the cost of the permit to build plus the time investment in decorating it when I don't even want a small. Sorry but the STATISTICS SHOW that more people want mediums or larges, and you are no one when it comes to deciding what and how they should bid. The fact is they should be looking at these stats and taking initiative to IMPROVE not stagnate and just keep building wards with smalls that only a few people want which clearly the majority want something bigger. That's the keyword, those bidding on mediums/larges are the majority, you heard that right? MAJORITY. you telling them that you're right and they are wrong for how they bid, is utterly laughable.

How is that “dictating” just because I said people need to get their priorities straight?
A big plan means nothing if you don’t even have a plot to start with.
Are you really suggesting players without a house should compete with every small plot owner?
That’s illogical.

Do you know how I upgraded to a medium plot on this alt account?
Last cycle, there were six large plots available for bidding, but I chose to bid on a medium instead of going for a large.
I had more than enough for a large plot, but I knew my priorities and used good judgment.

Again, if what you’re saying is even close to true, then those people really need to check their priorities.
You’re mentioning a “static”? By who, and based on what?
I don’t recall any official statement from SE. If there is one, please share it here—I could have missed it.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Or people want more space than a small. Because the two floors on a small are not even equally sized let alone limited to only 200 slots
among a plethora of other reasons why smalls just should not exist like how excruciatingly small the outside is and how much more limited the slots are on the outside.

You really have no right to tell people that they have to settle on a small and because they don't settle for a small their opinion, wants, needs are invalid.

I mean, I prefer the small layout - interior and exterior - so I think they should exist. lol The medium and large house walls/skins always look like “stretched out” versions of the small anyway. Once they finally give us that item increase, I’ll be happy. (Although I’d be ecstatic if we could ever add on rooms and have a personal chest, similar to how FCs do.)

But I get where you’re coming from on the “settling.” The old advice of “get any house now, you can transfer later” became outdated when they took away auto-relocation. Because now you’re just in another lotto against insane odds. So while my advice is generally “any house is better than no house,” at the same time, with things as they are, if you see the one you really want up for bids, you may as well go for it, because you have just as much chance of getting it as any random small. I bid on smalls exclusively for almost a year before I got the one I have now. And I’ve probably been trying for my preferred plot for about 3 years now. But still bidding on others for my own reasons. (I have an Observatory, but I have no unobstructed view of the night sky!)

And also, reason #2817 why I’d like an instanced housing option added… pick whatever size you want, pick your background scenery… bonus, no other houses getting in the way of your views, and/or your aesthetic! Most importantly, everyone would get a fully functional housing plot. The scarcity just creates hostility and imo if you pay a sub, you deserve to be able to participate in all forms of housing: apartment and/or FC room, island and a plot!