Housing is the biggest load of crap

[ShadowyZero]

I'll keep bidding on M plots, but I'd be OK even if I can't upgrade any time soon.

why are you so adverse to change though? honest question i have been asking but keep getting met with gate keepers and entitled brats lol

this is an mmo meaning it changes all the time and receives continuous updates and this project in particular has only a handful of years left they renewed it for another 10 years starting with dawntrail which is now a year old so that gives us 9 more years to push for new things that we would like to see assuming that is if their community team is passing along our ideas that is to say and if the developers take it into considerations.

and player housing while its a niche type of content its still something highly valued by the player base and one of the things that keeps the casual audience relatively engaged when done right.

maybe a small is okay for some and thats fine but not everyone will agree to just accept that thats all they will ever get or should receive is it fair that others get to enjoy mansions twice the size with triple the furnishing placement while the smalls get left in the dust? is it fair that apartments get abandoned an treated as an after thought?

and is it fair for someone to continuously lose at the behest of a very heavily skewed RNG based chance of even owning a plot to begin with an just have to sit houseless for another 4 plus years ? its not and thats why this thread was created cause people are sick of the unequal and unfair system these devs have created their solutions have all failed to address what players want out of housing and thats accessibility and customization

you can keep your houses if you're happy with them no one here is saying you should loose that but for the rest of us we want EVERYONE to be happy and have a home not bound by these ridiculous rules and restrictions. pls dont bring up apartments either i've explained this already its not the same as owning land an a house not even close. and the world visit option is just as bad cause it locks you out of things you absolutely need to be able to enjoy the game with friends and at times you wont even be able to play with friends cause of issues that may arise suddenly and without warning like congestion, maintenance, ddos etc.

[Solowing]

why are you so adverse to change though? honest question i have been asking but keep getting met with gate keepers and entitled brats lol

this is an mmo meaning it changes all the time and receives continuous updates and this project in particular has only a handful of years left they renewed it for another 10 years starting with dawntrail which is now a year old so that gives us 9 more years to push for new things that we would like to see assuming that is if their community team is passing along our ideas that is to say and if the developers take it into considerations.

and player housing while its a niche type of content its still something highly valued by the player base and one of the things that keeps the casual audience relatively engaged when done right.

maybe a small is okay for some and thats fine but not everyone will agree to just accept that thats all they will ever get or should receive is it fair that others get to enjoy mansions twice the size with triple the furnishing placement while the smalls get left in the dust? is it fair that apartments get abandoned an treated as an after thought?

and is it fair for someone to continuously lose at the behest of a very heavily skewed RNG based chance of even owning a plot to begin with an just have to sit houseless for another 4 plus years ? its not and thats why this thread was created cause people are sick of the unequal and unfair system these devs have created their solutions have all failed to address what players want out of housing and thats accessibility and customization

you can keep your houses if you're happy with them no one here is saying you should loose that but for the rest of us we want EVERYONE to be happy and have a home not bound by these ridiculous rules and restrictions. pls dont bring up apartments either i've explained this already its not the same as owning land an a house not even close. and the world visit option is just as bad cause it locks you out of things you absolutely need to be able to enjoy the game with friends and at times you wont even be able to play with friends cause of issues that may arise suddenly and without warning like congestion, maintenance, ddos etc.

Yeah,Housing is highly valued. That's why there's so many unbid smalls and abandoned apts.... And players want one so bad they refuse to go where the supply is.

Is that why people are complaining that they want to be able to unsub and not come back to keep their plot?

Is that why the housing ward is so empty compared to limsa?

The passion for the housing system is loud and clear.

The passionate for the housing systems are actually a minority of a minority.

I like housing.I enjoy it in whatever format it comes in. Housing is housing to me, and yet here you are trying to argue that your apt isnt enough because it has only 100 slots but say it needs an exterior with 1/4th of that item limit???

I don't know to me.It's like you guys are begging for a car, but then get upset that youre too good for a prius and someone didnt get you a ZR1.

[Solowing]

why are you so adverse to change though? honest question i have been asking but keep getting met with gate keepers and entitled brats lol
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and player housing while its a niche type of content its still something highly valued by the player base and one of the things that keeps the casual audience relatively engaged when done right. is it fair that apartments get abandoned an treated as an after thought?

Oh, I'm not just talking to talk.I'm walking the walk. I have multiple apartments. If they were not good enough I wouldn't have 5. I'm engaging with the housing system. Your engagement with the system is conditional

I would like to see your apartment. I wanna see if youre actually engaging with the system and not merely complaining about a system you won't touch.

I find your complaints about apts somewhat difficult to relate to. You may treat your apartment is an afterthought but I treat them no differently then my 2 plots




Is a friend's apartment that I helped them with by asking questions. Its not a house, but something they are proud of. An given they havent logged in within the last 2 years or so. Whenever they log back in, itll still be here. Unlike a plot

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Apartments are pretty underrated imo, they are a good first home and let you get practice decorating. There are plenty small plots available on most worlds for someone who want a home. If you are on one of the few servers that are full, move. Server hopping is easy, there is no excuse. If you wont move housing is not your priority, it's not that you don't have the option.

Part of the reason these sub farmers or bots people rant about can claim so many plots is that people are not going for them. There is no housing crisis atm.

[CCheshire]

why are you so adverse to change though? honest question i have been asking but keep getting met with gate keepers and entitled brats lol

this is an mmo meaning it changes all the time and receives continuous updates and this project in particular has only a handful of years left they renewed it for another 10 years starting with dawntrail which is now a year old so that gives us 9 more years to push for new things that we would like to see assuming that is if their community team is passing along our ideas that is to say and if the developers take it into considerations.

and player housing while its a niche type of content its still something highly valued by the player base and one of the things that keeps the casual audience relatively engaged when done right.

No one is averse to change, but I'm being pragmatic, and I had an apt or FC rooms for over a decade and only a small house 2-3 years ago in the least liked housing zone Empy like as long as Yoshi-p is head of FFXIV he said likes the neighborhoods and the ward system, and his word is why it still exists.

Also, even on the most crowded Aether DC I see small plots open on all wards, not forever, but it's there right now, as in anyone could walk up and buy it w/o any competition for weeks.

FWIW: I feel like unless the person is already invested in housing, many ppl like to deco it for a few weeks and then move on unless it's for an FC where it will be shared and have subs/airships. That, along with the fact that you can do almost everything on S houses unless you wanted more items/yard, and they are working on an item limit expansion later.

Although I know FFXIV =/= IRL however, M/L plots are limited and seen as exclusive so if anyone does want to bid on them they are often aware their chances of winning are very low UNLESS they are willing to move their main or create a Alt on Dynamis which is a sacrifice for what truly want a large mansion is up to them.

[ShadowyZero]

There are plenty small plots available on most worlds for someone who want a home. If you are on one of the few servers that are full, move. Server hopping is easy, there is no excuse. If you wont move housing is not your priority, it's not that you don't have the option.
There is no housing crisis atm.

if they would allow for people to all have the same house size this would not be the issue for so many people but that doesn't solve scarcity this archaic system is by design a predatory practice forcing people to stay subbed to keep it so the auto demolition ends up being trivial from the get go cause no one wants to let go of it cause getting the damn thing in the first place is so mind numbing an ridiculous

this is why i strongly advocate for solo instance housing it would effectively give everyone the option to own a plot an have a house of whatever shape or size they want
people need to stop hindering others for wanting to stay put on their datacenters its their home and where their friends are, world visit is shit it locks you out of features something that should never have happened ever until they fix that then i'll keep disagreeing with the sentimentality.

[Yuniko]

if they would allow for people to all have the same house size this would not be the issue for so many people but that doesn't solve scarcity this archaic system is by design a predatory practice forcing people to stay subbed to keep it so the auto demolition ends up being trivial from the get go cause no one wants to let go of it cause getting the damn thing in the first place is so mind numbing an ridiculous

this is why i strongly advocate for solo instance housing it would effectively give everyone the option to own a plot an have a house of whatever shape or size they want
people need to stop hindering others for wanting to stay put on their datacenters its their home and where their friends are, world visit is shit it locks you out of features something that should never have happened ever until they fix that then i'll keep disagreeing with the sentimentality.

Round of applaus! this is well spoken! Thank you for standing up for us ShadowyZero.

[Nyastra]

Apartments are pretty underrated imo, they are a good first home and let you get practice decorating. There are plenty small plots available on most worlds for someone who want a home. If you are on one of the few servers that are full, move. Server hopping is easy, there is no excuse. If you wont move housing is not your priority, it's not that you don't have the option.

Part of the reason these sub farmers or bots people rant about can claim so many plots is that people are not going for them. There is no housing crisis atm.

This is what I've been saying too. I GET why people are upset, but at the same time people cannot fault the devs for this when there are SO MANY open plots in other worlds. Now I'm not saying pack up and move, just saying that housing in fact isn't a big crisis like everyone says because there are empty plots that have been empty for a long damn time.

[Solowing]

if they would allow for people to all have the same house size this would not be the issue for so many people but that doesn't solve scarcity this archaic system is by design a predatory practice forcing people to stay subbed to keep it so the auto demolition ends up being trivial from the get go cause no one wants to let go of it cause getting the damn thing in the first place is so mind numbing an ridiculous

this is why i strongly advocate for solo instance housing it would effectively give everyone the option to own a plot an have a house of whatever shape or size they want
people need to stop hindering others for wanting to stay put on their datacenters its their home and where their friends are, world visit is shit it locks you out of features something that should never have happened ever until they fix that then i'll keep disagreeing with the sentimentality.

So let me get this straight.You're saying that you have the demolition making sure you use your plot is a bad thing?

You are literally arguing that you don't want to use your house and you don't want to log back in.But the game should allow you to keep it?

If you don't wanna log in anyway , what's the point of arguing for it? You're concerned trolling about something you don't actually care about

Also, you're locked out of retainers/fc and fc chat and dont build fc points....what else?

[Nyastra]

So let me get this straight.You're saying that you have the demolition making sure you use your plot is a bad thing?

You are literally arguing that you don't want to use your house and you don't want to log back in.But the game should allow you to keep it?

If you don't wanna log in anyway , what's the point of arguing for it? You're concerned trolling about something you don't actually care about

Also, you're locked out of retainers/fc and fc chat and dont build fc points....what else?

I dunno why it's such a wild take. I've lost 3 houses to auto-demo. 2 mediums and 1 large. Why? Because I wasn't subbed and I knew that this was the risk and I know the same will happen if I unsub once I win another plot. It's literally not the end of the world. It sucks yes, but good god. At least I can still enjoy the game.