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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by s32ialx View Post
    No what you are suggesting is illogical why should I waste my gil on a plot I don't even want on a size I don't even want. lol what you're suggesting is a joke and ACTUALLY read below

    YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
    So you rather have nothing than something?

    Who's being illogical here?

    The biggest joke here is somebody's actually trying to help you.And you're ignoring the help and then saying they're the problem for trying to assist you in increasing your chances.

    (For your signature. Do you know mobile.games make more money then console and pc combined? Also you know gacha games make alot of money off players off gambling mechanics? They arnt just "better" its heavily monetized and preys on whales who will throw their life savings into it. So they can afford the production put into it.)
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    Last edited by Solowing; 08-13-2025 at 10:20 PM.
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  2. #52
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    You don't help anyone.

    Who are you kidding?
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llamalass View Post
    You don't help anyone.

    Who are you kidding?
    Is that my responsibility to help someone?

    I don't pay my subscription to be of service to somebody else. Nobody does
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    Last edited by Solowing; 08-14-2025 at 12:12 AM.
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  4. #54
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    *takes a deep breath so I stop getting pissed at naive ignorant gatekeepers*

    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Do you even know what you are talking about right now?
    I am being practical and you behave delusional

    It’s not your place to accuse anyone who follows the rules.
    I pay subscriptions and actively play both accounts.
    You can have your “big plan,” and I have mine; the difference is that a practical approach actually gets results.
    I’ll enjoy my current plots and keep bidding for a large when it makes sense.
    I strongly disagree with your approach.
    If people want a plot, be practical and get a small first.
    4M gil means nothing in this game.
    You keep framing this as "practicality," but what you’re really promoting is complacency. Telling players to settle for something they don’t want, after months/years of saving gil and enduring lottery losses, isn’t helpful, it’s dismissive. Not everyone has the luxury of multiple accounts, endless gil, or time to decorate a plot they never wanted in the first place.

    The housing system isn’t broken because people are "too picky". It’s broken because demand far exceeds supply, and the current design punishes players who want to aim higher. Suggesting that people should "just get a small" ignores the reality that many players are saving specifically for mediums or larges because they have creative plans that smalls simply can’t accommodate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandr View Post
    I'd say small house owners probably are the majority bidders on medium and large houses
    Claiming that small house owners are the majority bidders on mediums and larges is pure speculation. There are millions of players and a finite number of small plots. Unless you’ve got hard data from SE, that’s just noise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Solowing View Post
    So you rather have nothing than something?

    Who's being illogical here?

    The biggest joke here is somebody's actually trying to help you.And you're ignoring the help and then saying they're the problem for trying to assist you in increasing your chances.
    And Solowing, "something is better than nothing" only applies when the "something" is actually worth it. For many players, a small plot isn’t just a compromise, it’s a disappointment. If someone’s saved up for a medium, telling them to throw that away for a small is not "help", it’s undermining their goals.

    This isn’t about entitlement. It’s about advocating for a system that reflects actual player demand, not outdated assumptions. If you’re comfortable with the status quo, great. But don’t invalidate those of us who aren’t.
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    Last edited by s32ialx; 08-14-2025 at 03:14 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.


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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solowing View Post
    (For your signature. Do you know mobile.games make more money then console and pc combined? Also you know gacha games make alot of money off players off gambling mechanics? They arnt just "better" its heavily monetized and preys on whales who will throw their life savings into it. So they can afford the production put into it.)
    In fiscal year 2022, FFXIV was credited as a “massive contributor” to Square Enix’s success, especially following the Endwalker expansion. The MMO subsegment saw a sharp rise in monthly paying subscribers.
    - That year, the company’s games division brought in ¥279.6 billion (~$2.2 billion USD) in sales, with FFXIV being a major driver.
    - In fiscal year 2024, the launch of the Dawntrail expansion again boosted MMO revenue, helping offset declines in other areas

    FFXIV likely generates between $300 million and $500 million USD per year, depending on expansion cycles and subscriber activity.

    If we take the estimated annual revenue range for FFXIV $300 million to $500 million USD then 40% would be:
    - 40% of $300 million = $120 million
    - 40% of $500 million = $200 million

    As of the fiscal year ending March 31, 2025, Square Enix reported net sales of ¥324.5 billion, which is roughly $2.3 billion USD depending on exchange rates. If we treat that as a proxy for their “entire budget” (since companies don’t usually publish a single “budget” figure), then:

    - 40% of ¥324.5 billion = ¥129.8 billion, that’s approximately $920 million USD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.


    kitsune.uwu.ai

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    Quote Originally Posted by s32ialx View Post
    In fiscal year 2022, FFXIV was credited as a “massive contributor” to Square Enix’s success, especially following the Endwalker expansion. The MMO subsegment saw a sharp rise in monthly paying subscribers.
    - That year, the company’s games division brought in ¥279.6 billion (~$2.2 billion USD) in sales, with FFXIV being a major driver.
    - In fiscal year 2024, the launch of the Dawntrail expansion again boosted MMO revenue, helping offset declines in other areas

    FFXIV likely generates between $300 million and $500 million USD per year, depending on expansion cycles and subscriber activity.

    If we take the estimated annual revenue range for FFXIV $300 million to $500 million USD then 40% would be:
    - 40% of $300 million = $120 million
    - 40% of $500 million = $200 million

    As of the fiscal year ending March 31, 2025, Square Enix reported net sales of ¥324.5 billion, which is roughly $2.3 billion USD depending on exchange rates. If we treat that as a proxy for their “entire budget” (since companies don’t usually publish a single “budget” figure), then:

    - 40% of ¥324.5 billion = ¥129.8 billion, that’s approximately $920 million USD


    Well spoken and said.

    And i've always been a strong advocate of the things you are saying.
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  7. #57
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    Just bid on a small, jesus.

    "I'M HUNGRY!"

    "Here is some mashed potatoes"

    "NO, I WANT STEAK"

    "There is no steak right now, but you can eat these potatoes since you said you were hungry, and get some steak later"

    "NO, I'D RATHER STARVE"

    Okay.
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    WAR don't get changes because they don't need changes. They only need more enemies to cleave.

  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    Just bid on a small, jesus.

    "I'M HUNGRY!"

    "Here is some mashed potatoes"

    "NO, I WANT STEAK"

    "There is no steak right now, but you can eat these potatoes since you said you were hungry, and get some steak later"

    "NO, I'D RATHER STARVE"

    Okay.
    Cute analogy, but it misses the mark entirely.

    Housing in FFXIV isn't a snack, it's a long-term investment of time, gil, and creativity. Saying "just take a small" is like telling someone who's saved up for a house IRL to settle for a broom closet because it's technically shelter. The issue isn't hunger, it's aspiration. Players aren't just looking for any plot, they're looking for the right one to match their goals, whether that's for an FC, a venue, or a personal creative space.

    Also, your analogy implies that steak will eventually be served. But in this system, there's no guarantee. You could eat mashed potatoes for years and never see steak. That's not practicality, that's settling indefinitely.

    If someone chooses to wait for what they actually want, that's not "starving", it's knowing their worth.

    I guess paying customers should just close up shop and go pay for another game that actually respects their money and provides instead of promising change and then ever delivering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.


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  9. #59
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    You're sitting in the rain complaining about not having a roof, but you're refusing a broom closet because you've saved up money?

    Get in the broom closet for the time being, since it costs HARDLY ANYTHING, then you'll be able to enjoy having shelter until such a time that you do win the Large you want.

    Stop complaining, take reasonable action, stop being stubborn, listen to advice.
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    WAR don't get changes because they don't need changes. They only need more enemies to cleave.

  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    You're sitting in the rain complaining about not having a roof, but you're refusing a broom closet because you've saved up money?

    Get in the broom closet for the time being, since it costs HARDLY ANYTHING, then you'll be able to enjoy having shelter until such a time that you do win the Large you want.

    Stop complaining, take reasonable action, stop being stubborn, listen to advice.
    You're confusing "stubbornness" with standards.

    I'm not refusing shelter, I'm refusing to throw away time, gil, and effort on something that doesn't meet my goals. A broom closet might be shelter, sure, but if I've saved for a proper home, why should I settle for less just because the system is broken?

    Also, let's not pretend this is a temporary fix. Plenty of players have been stuck in "broom closets" for years, unable to upgrade because the lottery system is stacked and supply is limited. Your advice assumes that getting a small plot guarantees future success, it doesn't. It just locks people into something they didn't want in the first place.

    I'm not complaining, I'm advocating. There's a difference. And if more people spoke up instead of settling, maybe SE would actually take notice and improve the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.


    kitsune.uwu.ai

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