Please confirm if there will be a 7.5 Ultimate before next Savage Release

**Bryson** · 07-29-2025 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by TeresaFortell

I do not think it is due to people not partaking in the readily available content for whatever reason; instead, I think those complaints mainly stem from the perspective of "they've done that already".

What remains, then, is the same repetition, one that has been consistently present in multiple expansions and patch cycles and, therefore, lacks the appropriate player engagement.

To borrow your example, it would be more like going to a buffet to eat, only to find that it offers the same food day after day, with no changes to the menu whatsoever.

i'm not so sure people who refuse to engage in the content already available to them (let alone have cleared it) are in a position to be calling for changes.
In an NA context, it'd be like someone outright refusing to do savage and/or ultimates entirely (maybe because they didn't clear it in a couple hours) and then unironically saying "what SE has on the menu needs to change."

Maybe their perspective is what needs changing, not the content itself... cause casuals do the content in other regions.. sure they don't clear it as fast, but that's not a problem because it's not a race to begin with.

**Atma** · 07-30-2025 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by Bryson

i'm not so sure people who refuse to engage in the content already available to them (let alone have cleared it) are in a position to be calling for changes.
In an NA context, it'd be like someone outright refusing to do savage and/or ultimates entirely (maybe because they didn't clear it in a couple hours) and then unironically saying "what SE has on the menu needs to change."

Maybe their perspective is what needs changing, not the content itself... cause casuals do the content in other regions.. sure they don't clear it as fast, but that's not a problem because it's not a race to begin with.

Yes, it is perfectly legitimate for those people to be calling for changes. It's been painfully obvious too much development time is being spent on crazy mechanics and fights for the hardcore base and nowhere near enough developing content to challenge the 'casual' userbase without requiring 3 nights of prog, external voicechat, and watching 3 fight videos while memorizing strategies. Entire systems in this game need a complete overhaul, and it's honestly kind of obvious that this team is struggling to walk and chew gum at the same time. This has reached a crisis point - it needs to be an 'all hands on deck, change the entire roadmap' event.

Every other MMO seems to have next to no problems doing this, so the dev team needs to seriously reconsider the allocation of resources in this game until they solve this problem. Yes, even if that means skipping ultimates and/or the quality/intricacy of savage mechanics suffering for a while. Yeah, sorry, you may need to have a few 'boring' savage tiers until they figure out a way to give us 'duty finder+' or something.

**TomsYoungerBro** · 07-30-2025 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by Bryson

It's NA Casuals whose plates are full. They conflate "nothing for me to do" with "I'm consciously deciding to not engage in x content because y reasons.

It's like going to a buffet and saying there's nothing to eat.. That's the average NA casual. Nothing to eat = / Choosing to not eat what's readily available.

Inversely, on JP, casuals will still do a lot of the content readily available, just at a slower pace. (irl time constraints, skill, can't find static, etc etc)

Its an interesting point considering this topic was simply asking if content's release date that is under development can be confirmed before the next savage release, yet users instead came here to complain casuals have nothing to do.

**Nero-Voidstails** · 07-30-2025 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro

Its an interesting point considering this topic was simply asking if content's release date that is under development can be confirmed before the next savage release, yet users instead came here to complain casuals have nothing to do.

nobody have things to do at this point not gonna lie

**Nero-Voidstails** · 07-30-2025 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by TeresaFortell

Why should they include a normal FT just because casuals want one? Casuals should learn how to play the game properly; otherwise, they disrupt other players' experiences. /s

I love the fact that the only thing I assume is casual FT lol I said remove Rez limite and make people respawn in FT when they wipe. but true don't ask to much from people it seem hard to and remember you play a MMO so if you I join a dungeon with you and you tell me to go faster don't you think it's also disrupting? ya double standard is high in this one

**Nero-Voidstails** · 07-30-2025 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by Striker44

In that case, every single MMO in existence has practically no content...

Dungeons, Raids, Reputation Grinds (Dailies) are all standard in MMOs and expected to be done repeatedly over long stretches of time. They are absolutely valid to mention.

I love the argument of "I'm right...you just have to ignore everything that make me wrong" lol.

I do agree but they all challenge you in a way and also the overworld also matter in the other compared to 14

**Themarvin** · 07-30-2025 04:39 AM

Not that I am against that some scraps is being given out to players, but it would feel a big like a massive neglect of the player base again, if no medium/hard content is being added, it fees like SE or Yoshi P. and his team has forgotten about how great this game could be for all.

**seolhyun** · 07-30-2025 10:44 AM

they better hope there is a 2nd ultimate or this game is gonna die with 7.5 potentially lasting a year at the current pace.

**Bryson** · 07-31-2025 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by seolhyun

they better hope there is a 2nd ultimate or this game is gonna die with 7.5 potentially lasting a year at the current pace.

game can't "die" when you have hundreds of thousands of msq andies and rpers. Most recent lucky bancho census had 880k active players.
Also, I'm more doomer and don't believe DT will have a 2nd ultimate. Even if it is ready for release, I could see them sitting on it and releasing in 8.1. I don't think they'd unironically have ultimate, OC/FT, and criterion all throughout .5.. doesn't sound like SE.

**Daralii** · 07-31-2025 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by Bryson

game can't "die" when you have hundreds of thousands of msq andies and rpers. Most recent lucky bancho census had 880k active players.
Also, I'm more doomer and don't believe DT will have a 2nd ultimate. Even if it is ready for release, I could see them sitting on it and releasing in 8.1. I don't think they'd unironically have ultimate, OC/FT, and criterion all throughout .5.. doesn't sound like SE.

The problem is that the majority of SE's income is XIV, and it's tens to hundreds of thousands of active players every time Lucky Bancho's census updates. I think the numbers are now back to where they were in Stormblood, so all the gains they got in ShB and early EW are just gone.

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