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    Purifying Abilities Inconsistent Tooltips

    I think SE should do a better job at consolidating their tooltips into something more uniform and following the same language when it comes to ailment purifiers like Purify.

    For instance, Purify reads:

    Removes Stun, Heavy, Bind, Silence, Deep Freeze, and Miracle of Nature.
    Additional Effect: Grants Resilience
    Resilience Effect: Nullifies status afflictions that can be removed by Purify, as well as knockback and draw-in effects.
    Compare to Meikyo, that DOESN'T remove ailments, only prevents them (nullifies):

    Grants Meikyo Shisui.
    Meikyo Shisui Effect: Nullifies status afflictions that can be removed by Purify, as well as knockback and draw-in effects
    So far, so good, both are consistent. Let's continue on with Warden's Paean:

    Removes one status affliction from self or target party member that can be removed by Purify. If a status affliction cannot be removed, creates a barrier that will nullify the next status affliction that can be removed by Purify.
    This still follows the same pattern: it removes one ailment OR prevent (nullifies) another.

    Now for aquaveil:

    Creates a barrier around self or target party member that absorbs damage equivalent to a heal of 8,000 potency.
    Duration: 10s
    Additional Effect: Nullifies one status affliction that can be removed by Purify
    Barrier potency is doubled when successfully nullifying a status affliction.
    Aquaveil does cleanses a status effect, but doesn't ward like the above. This is especially problematic because the tooltip actually uses the same word to describe something different, which is misleading. Did you wonder why new players keep throwing it away thinking it will ward their target? Perhaps this is at least a little guilty of why.

    Now look at Swift, that suddenly breaks all of the conventions and just uses its own language, which I think is just confusing for no real reason:

    Increases movement speed by 100% and grants immunity to Stun, Heavy, Bind, Silence, Half-asleep, Sleep, Deep Freeze, and knockback and draw-in effects.

    Inner Release
    also starts using completely different words for no reason:

    Inner Release Effect: Increases the potency of Primal Rend, Primal Ruination, Inner Chaos, and Chaotic Cyclone, while also increasing movement speed by 25%, and granting immunity to Stun, Heavy, Bind, Silence, Half-asleep, Sleep, Deep Freeze, and knockback and draw-in effects
    Please be consistent with those tooltips?


    Recent edit: added Aquaveil and Inner Release to the list.
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    Last edited by Valence; Yesterday at 09:20 PM.
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    According to the Japanese text, Swift nullifies the same debuffs as Meikyo Shisui: it includes Miracle of Nature, but not Half-asleep or Sleep. The German and French versions follow the same pattern as the Japanese version. The English text appears to differ from the other language versions and may be incorrect.
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    It's always, always the EN translation, doesn't it?
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    It really is. I posted bug reports on inconsistency of nullifiable debuff types for "Swift" and "Guard" in Japanese Forums. In the Japanese version, they are the same as "Meikyo Shisui," but this is not the case in the English version. A reply pointed out that "Primal Scream" has the same problem. They moved to "Accepted Bugs" section. I hope these issues will be fixed.
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    I'm sorry but why is this still a thing? Actually noticed today that I had aquaveil wrong specifically because of this.

    Bumping for visibility. Please get the EN translation team up to the task? It's not the first time in the game's history and it's always the EN translation on tooltips (remember the infamous Tornado Kick SB tooltip? Just one among many).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    I'm sorry but why is this still a thing? Actually noticed today that I had aquaveil wrong specifically because of this.

    Bumping for visibility. Please get the EN translation team up to the task? It's not the first time in the game's history and it's always the EN translation on tooltips (remember the infamous Tornado Kick SB tooltip? Just one among many).
    Post it in https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...7-Localization and its fixed next patch.

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    Alright, costs nothing to try then.
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