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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    What the F are you talking about? Most of those are oGCDs, look at the damn GCDs as well.

    Yes I know how to read xiv analysis. Outside of your GCD’s which were overwhelmingly broil and biolysis (there is one adlo, 3 ascensions and concitations, and like 5 ruin 2’s) the overwhelming amount of other actions were eos casting embrace

    Casting 27 oGCD’s in 3 minutes when 4 are a raid buff and 6 are “upkeep” for mana and resources really isn’t a lot

    So unless your point was “SCH’s gameplay is overwhelmingly casting broil and watching eos cast embrace” I’m not sure what that diagram is meant to represent as all it does is show how vapid SCH’s gameplay is
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 07-28-2025 at 09:36 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Yes I know how to read xiv analysis. Outside of your GCD’s which were overwhelmingly broil and biolysis (there is one adlo, 3 ascensions and concitations, and like 5 ruin 2’s) the overwhelming amount of other actions were eos casting embrace

    Casting 27 oGCD’s in 3 minutes when 4 are a raid buff and 6 are “upkeep” for mana and resources really isn’t a lot

    So unless your point was “SCH’s gameplay is overwhelmingly casting broil and watching eos cast embrace” I’m not sure what that diagram is meant to represent as all it does is show how vapid SCH’s gameplay is

    Apparently, you don't, yet you continue to argue. I mean, it's no mystery that your "14 years" of playing healers sums up as null at the end.

    Do you understand what 40k Heal Per SECOND means? And sure, I do cast Broil because I am expected to contribute to damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    Apparently, you don't, yet you continue to argue. I mean, it's no mystery that your "14 years" of playing healers sums up as null at the end.

    Do you understand what 40k Heal Per SECOND means? And sure, I do cast Broil because I am expected to contribute to damage.
    I really really do wonder what comment you are reading

    I don’t care what your HPS is. I’m responding to the fact that you responded to someone going “I wish we used our entire kit and it wasn’t so bloated” with a xiv analysis diagram showing you overwhelmingly used broil and watched eos cast embrace. If you were using that to try to show how much your kit is being used then you really missed the mark

    All that diagram shows is how bad SCH’s gameplay is
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 07-28-2025 at 09:47 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I really really do wonder what comment you are reading

    I don’t care what your HPS is. I’m responding to the fact that you responded to someone going “I wish we used our entire kit and it wasn’t so bloated” with a xiv analysis diagram showing you overwhelmingly used broil and watched eos cast embrace. If you were using that to try to show how much your kit is being used then you really missed the mark

    All that diagram shows is how bad SCH’s gameplay is
    Maaan, you are so predictable. You cherry-pick only convenient portions of stuff that you can twist and make fit your utterly stupid, nonsensical narrative.

    Do you think I can do 40K Heal per second just sitting afk spamming Broil and letting fairy do the healing? There is no mystery why nobody looks at or takes forums seriously, devs, or mods likewise.

    This is so tragic..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    Maaan, you are so predictable. You cherry-pick only convenient portions of stuff that you can twist and make fit your utterly stupid, nonsensical narrative.

    Do you think I can do 40K Heal per second just sitting afk spamming Broil and letting fairy do the healing? There is no mystery why nobody looks at or takes forums seriously, devs, or mods likewise.

    This is so tragic..
    We can see what you are doing…….you literally posted the xiv analysis image, and it’s hilarious that it’s still basically all broil and embrace

    Like I don’t know why you think you are doing so much more, like you posted the image, we can see what you are doing, it’s right there, it’s overwhelmingly broil and embrace. Your kit is not being adequately used there like your uptime on most healing skills is low how am I twisting the Narrative, again it’s literally right there I don’t know what to tell you

    I’m not trying to say you are bad, I’m trying to say that your image isn’t telling the story you think it is
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    We can see what you are doing…….you literally posted the xiv analysis image, and it’s hilarious that it’s still basically all broil and embrace

    Like I don’t know why you think you are doing so much more, like you posted the image, we can see what you are doing, it’s right there, it’s overwhelmingly broil and embrace. Your kit is not being adequately used there like your uptime on most healing skills is low how am I twisting the Narrative, again it’s literally right there I don’t know what to tell you

    I’m not trying to say you are bad, I’m trying to say that your image isn’t telling the story you think it is
    And you are still going at it...

    You say my picture is not telling the story because you only read what is convenient to you..

    There you go... Filtered by ability since apparently Embrace is most of the actions that I apparently do..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    And you are still going at it...

    You say my picture is not telling the story because you only read what is convenient to you..

    There you go... Filtered by ability since apparently Embrace is most of the actions that I apparently do..
    Yoshi, i caught someone

    jokes aside, you are right. Even in an optimised environment Embrace never surpasses 15% of your total HPS. Can we rather complain about Whispering Dawn/Physis & Soil/Kera. 2 OGCD's that have been dodging nerfs for years now.
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    I see my nefarious plan to twist people’s words amounts to “other person misread my post”

    I don’t care that embrace is a fraction of your actual HPS, I pointed out that your xiv analysis diagram that’s apparently full of actions is rather empty when you ignore broil and embrace casts

    There is less than 40 actions on that not embrace, broil or biolysis, in a 3 minute window, for reference there is 216 potential actions per 3 minutes (288 if you count per GCD) you can theoretically conduct, and SCH is spending less than 40 of them doing ANYTHING that’s not your one button spam or watching the fairy auto cast embrace AND THATS A 3 MINUTE WINDOW THAT INCLUDES 2 BURSTS WHERE DAMAGE IS HIGHEST
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    I find it quite amusing that players that have never stepped a foot inside savage or ultimates are complaining the most. (Especially about healer kits and design)
    Have you ever played WoW? it's literally the same. You get though all casual group content while pressing 2-3 buttons over and over again.
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    Again if you look at that xiv analysis diagram he is basically pressing one button IN SAVAGE, like again I don’t know why anyone is trying to pretend so much more is going on, the diagram is right there in black and white and it’s hilariously empty

    And “lol you don’t do savage” doesn’t even work as an excuse, I used to do savage, I dropped it because of awful modern healer kits, but I don’t even need to prove my worth in savage. SOMEONE POSTED A DIAGRAM of their casts. It’s right there, what more do people want
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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