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    Divinemights's Avatar
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Leviathan
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    Ninja Lv 100
    If you want to classify Meteordrive as a hard CC, I do agree
    Although it is a costly penalty for MNK because of how MNK pvp rotation functions
    Personally, I do use Meteordrive to lock the target in animation and run a countdown macro to signal teammates when to focus fire.
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    Mercury_Grey's Avatar
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    Jaune Khione
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    HOneslty i got a feeling they might revert the purify change with how negative the feedback from what i seen, so far. Though if LBs lost some function adn gave an MP gain back for using it being used (except BLM AND RPR they get their LBs too often) OR here a thing purifying Mircale restores the 2500 MP that we use
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    Emitans's Avatar
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    Faorin Shadowclaw
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I literally cannot get Contradance off in Frontlines without dying now. Even if I use the role action that has a 25% mitigation or whatever. This feels really bad.
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    The only way currently to pull off a Contra to make sure not to have it interrupted by any CC is to spamm Purify after using the LB and cross your fingers not to get screwed over by server lag or being CC'ed just before using the LB, when previously you could either pre purify, or do this, so the amount of options has been halved.
    It doesn't make the LB unusable and I'll admit that my wording in the title was a little over dramatic, but it certainly doesn't help. I haven't tried in FL so I can only imagine how annoying it can be.
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    Faorin Shadowclaw
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Next time I'll try Purifying after the LB instead of before to see if that helps.
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    Ixon's Avatar
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    Nola Ustrina
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    Cactuar
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Yeah, DNC LB is a death sentence in FL or CC. It's now just for solo ulting Vipers in Snake Scale.
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Machinist Lv 100
    What annoys me the most right now with Contra is that since the LB more or less requires burning a Purify to prevent stuns/silences (unless you're fighting against targets that can't stun you), you're essentially paying 15k HP to use said LB. Generally after using the LB you'll want to refresh charm and dump AoEs to help your team kill down charmed opponents, or just go immediately into guard to tempo because you didn't snag all of them and are just going to die otherwise. Generally the time it takes for the LB to wind up, odds are you're going to take a lot of damage if your opponent has two functioning brain cells and will actually try to shut you down, so you do NEED those recups for after.
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao

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    Nola Ustrina
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    Cactuar
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Dive in or pop from behind cover to maximize how many you hit with DNC LB > get hit by 10k worth of cleave damage not meant for you > get hit by 20-30k worth of damage in the time it takes to register, while half the enemy team has already dashed away > spam purify and potions because you are about to die > lose the chance to extend LB duration > team is unable to secure a kill > die yourself cause you spent half your MP just trying to LB.

    Or even better, pop DNC LB and get hit by five 20k hits that exist on a 30sec cd for some reason and explode.

    Would assume, unless they change Purif,y to either add anti-cc or at minimum damage reduction while LB'ing so you don't just pop.
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Another thing I hadn't quite considered until playing with those changes is that if you get focused before using your DNC LB (as again, players at a certain level with 2 braincells will do), odds are you're going to eat damage as usual, but also crowd control, which can force you to heal and Purify before using the LB, which means that Purify won't be ready for after the LB unless you delay even further.
    Or you can just retreat and try again another time when nobody in the enemy team has hard counters to your LB, when you get positioning, and when basically stars align.
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao

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    Nola Ustrina
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    Cactuar
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Or you can just retreat and try again another time when nobody in the enemy team has hard counters to your LB, when you get positioning, and when basically stars align.
    Pretty much. Best use case is to go in with LB ready, never actually pop it, absorb 3-5 LBs and every cc imaginable, get out, heal up, go again. Basically become a tank and a half for enemy resources. Have to hold it till even the enemy forgets you have it.
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