[DISCUSSION] Primal Replacements

[Striker44]

As much as I loved the concept, SE has been very open about Primals being a thing of the past. But Primals filled a narrative niche for Trials and were the primary way of showcasing Final Fantasy's iconic summons and monsters.

What do you think will fill their absence? Dawntrail was uncommitted to the concept, only having 4 Trials in base so who knows how it will look in the future.

What do you theorize? What do you hope for? Or would you rather Trials just go the way of the dodo?

Just because we don't have "primals" anymore hasn't prevented them from getting some of those "iconic" summons and monsters in. DT started with Tritoch/Valigarmanda, EW had Anima, etc..

[DiaDeem]

We could replace Primals with real life dinosaurs, like so:

[0blivion]

I don't care if they're primals or not, I care if they have narrative value. Valigarmanda didn't. Some of the primals in ARR/HW/Stormblood were narratively worthless.ShB did it right, so did EW until post-patches, which just kinda sucked. Werlyt is YMMV but I kinda hated it lol. Four Lords was decently written despite the premise. Warring Triad is a bit whatever but Unukalhai is good. What else... Memoria Misera was okay but super low effort because it didn't even get its own boss music lmfao. Zelenia is... a choice they sure made. Would've been good with setup. There was no setup.
So yeah, go back to 5.0/6.0 style trials. Please.

[mallleable]

I don't have any strong feelings about trials being part of the MSQ. A nice thing about making trials part of the MSQ is that who/what we get as trials won't be locked in side quest jail so it make being able to pull on those threads a cleaner process.

[ShadowyZero]

i would like to see them revisit the Ysayle idea of how she became shiva sorta like ff16 had dominants like that would be a cool or fun way to introduce to us new deity like figures or demonic ones etc. i mean heck the ancients pretty much did that normally when it came to combat situations its why we face

hermes

in a dungeon and

hades

as a trial and

elidibus

as a raid boss etc.

[Garruss]

The Asicans taught the whole world to summon Primals, I would not be shocked if places we have not gone to still do that