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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuniko View Post
    At this point SE does NOT give a single flying duck about housing, or upgrades to Housing, or anything. THey Only care about MONEY.

    NOTHING ELSE. nice betrayal SE, thanks for sticking by your loyal subscribers...
    This is what happens when you have corporate bean counters running things, they only care about profits and would throw out slop and see if it sticks instead of having real gamers leading. When real gamers were leading over 20 years ago, FF was at it's best and the same is true for many franchises like Halo and Half Life for example. That passion for gaming is gone at the top of the corporate ladder in SE and all other AAA gaming publishers. The 90s and 2000s truly were the golden age of gaming in terms of creativity and more before corporate bean counters took over.
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    Meow Mansion - Rinoa's personal mansion located in Exodus LB W28 P28

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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinoa_353 View Post
    This is what happens when you have corporate bean counters running things, they only care about profits and would throw out slop and see if it sticks instead of having real gamers leading. When real gamers were leading over 20 years ago, FF was at it's best and the same is true for many franchises like Halo and Half Life for example. That passion for gaming is gone at the top of the corporate ladder in SE and all other AAA gaming publishers. The 90s and 2000s truly were the golden age of gaming in terms of creativity and more before corporate bean counters took over.
    Games aren't just a art that can make money now. It's seen as a money maker that can create art as a byproduct these days
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinoa_353 View Post
    This is what happens when you have corporate bean counters running things, they only care about profits and would throw out slop and see if it sticks instead of having real gamers leading. When real gamers were leading over 20 years ago, FF was at it's best and the same is true for many franchises like Halo and Half Life for example. That passion for gaming is gone at the top of the corporate ladder in SE and all other AAA gaming publishers. The 90s and 2000s truly were the golden age of gaming in terms of creativity and more before corporate bean counters took over.
    Yep. And it saddens me to no end.

    If totalbiscuit was alive to this day, he'd be Peeved.
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  5. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solowing View Post
    If you want a ward bid for it like the rest of us or go where the supply is easily accessible. If you are unwilling to go where the supply is.Or you don't want to deal with the bidding.I don't feel bad for you. You don't want to increase your chances and I don't feel bad for you.

    You have 45 days to keep your plot.If you don't log in and lose it that's on you (your physical or mental health/state is none of anyones concern but your own) There are too many players and not enough plots to go around.So if it goes unused it needs to go back up on the market for whatever reason. Use it or lose it.

    Square does read the feedback and they do respond to some of the players feedback. Like Apts, the demo timer, the hidden release timer, theme changes, the lottery system, and even readjusting the lighting from the model update But instanced housing? One of the topics that pop up time and time again? They arnt entertaining it..Regardless on how I feel on the matter. The silence on this subject over the last decade tells me all I need to know.
    I can't even get a apartment in my own world. And yet a elitist still yelling at people who want their own houses should go where house is "accessible". WHY DO I HAVE TO LEAVE MY WORLD TO GET A HOUSE?
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  6. #35
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    The current housing system is literally against the TOS.

    I'm half-joking, but think about it: it breaks TOS to engage in "any kind of obstructive behavior that prevents the activities of another player." Well, if you buy that sweet beachside mansion, you're preventing another player from doing the same. Imagine if other content was only accessible to a limited number of players: Sorry, you can't get that mount until one of the players who has it doesn't ride it for 45 days. Sorry, that cool glam isn't available until one of the owners hasn't worn it for 45 days. And of course housing is worse than loot being limited, because of all the activities that are locked behind housing.

    It pits player vs. player in the most toxic way possible. We shouldn't have to even think about how many houses another player has, because one person's loot or activities shouldn't reduce anyone else's access to the same.
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  7. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by shi0shio View Post
    I can't even get a apartment in my own world. And yet a elitist still yelling at people who want their own houses should go where house is "accessible". WHY DO I HAVE TO LEAVE MY WORLD TO GET A HOUSE?
    in balmungs situation there is a actual housing crisis not a plot crisis. Your issue is a genuine housing concern as you cannot partake in housing in ANY fashion.

    I don't necessarily agree with either, but I'm looking as a incentive for players for fill out the lower pop servers imo. Gotta fill up those servers. You don't have to go if you don't want to.

    Mind you, you don't have to leave your world at all.You just have to compete. However you are given a baseline access to housing.

    I personally think if we're going to get improvements to the system.It has to go from the plot down. I.
    Think the best way to go about it is trying to bring this standard of the apartments up without infringing on plots.

    They want you to get a plot and the demo timer will keep you around once you obtain it. The plots are the carrot on a stick thats actually a hook that your emotional/time investment ties you to it. And then ask is that investment worth the 12 to 15 dollars a month to keep it.

    But also let's say they swap to an instance system, you'll start seeing that monetization show up potentially in more aggressive ways.

    But for Balmung that is a genuine housing problem and agree that needs to be looked into. I think players are entitled to be able to access housing in some capacity as housing is a feature. But that doesn't contradict my previous statement on it.
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  8. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shnrnr View Post
    The current housing system is literally against the TOS.

    it breaks TOS to engage in "any kind of obstructive behavior that prevents the activities of another player
    i'm no lawyer. What's that interpretation apply to pretty much anything like mobs, bosses, item level requirements, time gated lockouts?

    (Devils advocate)
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  9. #38
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    Well, if you want to travel to less populated servers to get a house, be quick about it, bots are filling the slots at a rapid pace for a few months! I see this happening on Sagittarius.
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  10. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shnrnr View Post
    The current housing system is literally against the TOS.

    I'm half-joking, but think about it: it breaks TOS to engage in "any kind of obstructive behavior that prevents the activities of another player." Well, if you buy that sweet beachside mansion, you're preventing another player from doing the same. Imagine if other content was only accessible to a limited number of players: Sorry, you can't get that mount until one of the players who has it doesn't ride it for 45 days. Sorry, that cool glam isn't available until one of the owners hasn't worn it for 45 days. And of course housing is worse than loot being limited, because of all the activities that are locked behind housing.

    It pits player vs. player in the most toxic way possible. We shouldn't have to even think about how many houses another player has, because one person's loot or activities shouldn't reduce anyone else's access to the same.
    Reduce the demo timer to 15 days and see how that works out. (As a fc leader with a inactive fc. I have 14 days to not be online or id lose my fc and the plot)

    It was just frustrate players even more because they have to log in even more frequently.

    But reducing it to about sixty days will piss just as many if not more players off since now it takes even longer to get a plot, and plots will go abandoned for even longer before it goes back on sale.

    45 days is long enough to take a break from the game. And even go on vacation.
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    Last edited by Solowing; 08-04-2025 at 08:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s32ialx View Post
    I truly hope you never have to deal with a physical illness like cancer or diabetes or mental health like PTSD and brain damage, you have 0 compassion and it's disgusting, no it's sad, it's worrisome, it's concerning.
    I have. I was hit by a car during my time here, as well as had a existential emotional meltdown. None of which is anyone's concern or problem but my own. Im not trying deny people go through things. But it isnt a games responsibility to account for that. And that does sound cold, but how else could you say it?

    The unfortunately reality was regardless of my condition any company that runs on profit was still going to ask for payment regardless of my condition or status on the due date. And either payment is rendered or services are discontinued.

    The demo timer is a necessary evil, and I rather be absolutely fair in a system where there isnt enough to go around. You need to make use of the plot to some capacity to keep it. If you were incapacitated , I think you have much bigger problems to worry about than a virtual video game house, priorities need shifting.
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    Last edited by Solowing; 08-06-2025 at 05:13 AM.
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