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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    They didn't actually. They outright refused to quote the instance because of their policy, as they would. But they still have to give you a reason.
    i mean the GM also have rules in themself to follow they can contact you anytime but the GM jail isnt a thing they can spam if they want to talk to someone. unless suspension is in order then yes it well or something really bad happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    i mean the GM also have rules in themself to follow they can contact you anytime but the GM jail isnt a thing they can spam if they want to talk to someone. unless suspension is in order then yes it well or something really bad happening.
    I think I've completely lost the point you're trying to make?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    I think I've completely lost the point you're trying to make?
    fair if you haven't experience some exchange with gm let's just say GM jail is mostly used for big big reason or ban other then that it's tells
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    fair if you haven't experience some exchange with gm let's just say GM jail is mostly used for big big reason or ban other then that it's tells
    Heh, this is funny to read, when mine has been the exact opposite of that.
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Heh, this is funny to read, when mine has been the exact opposite of that.
    then it is actually reportable on them due to ToS because THEY cannot pull you into GM jail other then important information aka suspension
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    then it is actually reportable on them due to ToS because THEY cannot pull you into GM jail other then important information aka suspension
    Does it include account warnings (for no reason but that's beyond the point)?
    And how do you actually report a GM? Especially after asking the GM inside to talk with a higher up and being denied repeatedly?
    I even tried reaching outside the game through tickets, and they have a nice administrative loop that sends you back ingame for "in game related issues".
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao

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    Quote Originally Posted by All_Nonsense View Post
    "The idiom 'moving the goalposts' means to change the rules or requirements of a situation, activity, or argument in progress, typically to gain an advantage or make it harder for someone else to succeed. It implies an unfair alteration of the terms of engagement once an effort has been made to meet the original conditions"


    The natural terminus of this philosophy of thinking is ending the Novice Network. Not a great solution. If someone is misbehaving and you kick them and report them then they will get in trouble. If they are not and you kick them and they report you, you get in trouble. I fail to see how this is a huge issue.
    In the same vein if a mod deletes your topic, you're obviously in the wrong and need to submit to their authority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    In the same vein if a mod deletes your topic, you're obviously in the wrong and need to submit to their authority.
    You're so close to getting it. The point isn't about unquestioned submission to authority, it's about consistency and fairness. The NN works best when rules are enforced predictably. Advocating for transparency shouldn't be a controversial opinion
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    I can't believe Final Fantasy XIV made an entire expansion focused on Jar Jar Binks.

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