2 Person Premades in Casual Crystalline Conflict?

[jesseleewelch]

Apparently the next patch will bring the option to play Crystalline Conflict (casual) with a 2 person premade. I know premades have been a hot topic in Frontlines and Rival Wings. Do ya'll think they will be a big issue in Crystalline Conflict? How impactful do you think this will be?

[echo78]

The biggest impact in casual CC will continue to be which team gets the person that can't press recuperate.

[MogHunter]

Premades are the single biggest problem in pvp and should be removed. Archievment hunters will abuse this, and strong pairs will have about 90% winrate in casual matches.

Got my wings of fire last mog event. Usually you had one rw match going on and you soon came to know which strong players are playing. At the start of the match you can see which players and premades are on your side, and thus know which are against you. You can then tell which side will dominate or if it's gona be a fair match whit about 80-90% accuracy. So you often know the result of the match at the start, making the match itself completely pointless.

We have the same problem in cc a little allready. Early if there is only one match going and couple strong players, the matches can be predetermined. 2 player premades gona be horrible.

Remember: Strong premades have over 80% winrate. That means other people have under 50% combined(33 fl). Math.

[Emitans]

Limiting it to two players as a good move. You can still play it with a friend, but don't get stuff like the full stack premades Guild Wars 2 lets you make in unranked for some god forsaken reason.

[Divinemights]

It’s clear that no matter what Square Enix does, a portion of the community will always be dissatisfied.
I recall multiple threads where players specifically requested a team queue option for casual matches.
No matter what choice they make, someone is bound to be unhappy.

[Atreus]

Premades are the single biggest problem in pvp and should be removed. Archievment hunters will abuse this, and strong pairs will have about 90% winrate in casual matches.

Got my wings of fire last mog event. Usually you had one rw match going on and you soon came to know which strong players are playing. At the start of the match you can see which players and premades are on your side, and thus know which are against you. You can then tell which side will dominate or if it's gona be a fair match whit about 80-90% accuracy. So you often know the result of the match at the start, making the match itself completely pointless.

We have the same problem in cc a little allready. Early if there is only one match going and couple strong players, the matches can be predetermined. 2 player premades gona be horrible.

Remember: Strong premades have over 80% winrate. That means other people have under 50% combined(33 fl). Math.

You could do it too, just saying.

[Valence]

If two good players pair together I can see how it can severely influence the outcome of a game, provided the matchmaking doesn't account for it. Right now it definitely accounts for a good player, especially ranked, in that it tries to make up for it by pairing the weakest players with them (especially that one player that doesn't press recup and will anchor the game).
How will it go when 2 players are paired together? I don't know but if nothing changes, 2 ranked players in a duo will probably literally get all the weakest players in their team, but if this is 2 good unranked players, then I don't know. That's why I came up with the idea multiple times to have the matchmaking only field a dual premade if there is another in the other team, but idk. We'll see I guess?

[Eastwall]

It sucks that it is solo queue only, But concern with steamroll is well warranted. In gw2's unranked 5v5, you can queue In as 5 stacks. There are instance my team got farmed So hard by a sweaty 5 stacks So We just sit in spawn. Then the 5 stacks started to throwing put insults to try to get us to leave the spawn. I just left my computer to get a cup of drink. Although it is only duos queue, it is still somewhat concerning. I guess nothing is only going to be only positive

[JuneBuggy]

It sucks that it is solo queue only, But concern with steamroll is well warranted. In gw2's unranked 5v5, you can queue In as 5 stacks. There are instance my team got farmed So hard by a sweaty 5 stacks So We just sit in spawn. Then the 5 stacks started to throwing put insults to try to get us to leave the spawn. I just left my computer to get a cup of drink. Although it is only duos queue, it is still somewhat concerning. I guess nothing is only going to be only positive

This was my main concern as well if we looked at the flipside of the coin. I'm sure the ability to be able to queue casuals with friends will be well received by the majority, but I also did consider the other side of the spectrum in which a few bad apples could exhibit bad etiquette/manners in CC.