The state of the Game

[Mawlzy]

I'd hope for the former, but I can't say.

What I can say is, something that would be nice, as a gesture of good faith, would be to release a survey to the community like Yoshi-P did when he went to work on 1.0

Just a long list of yea or nay and a/b/c questions (so the feedback isn't a cacophony of noise), addressing many of the grievances the community has brought forth over the last year, compare it with the player data, and implement them in the development of 8.0

It may not seem like much, but I feel like that would go a long way in restoring some trust between the players and Yoshi-P / CBU3

The fact SE doesn't survey the FFXIV player base became a huge red flag for me that they simply don't care what we think or want.

[MaikoRaines]

The fact SE doesn't survey the FFXIV player base became a huge red flag for me that they simply don't care what we think or want.

I mean, can you blame Square-Enix? With the amount of takes people here have, you'd think all feedback was constructive. Or important. Or relevant.

[Mawlzy]

I mean, can you blame Square-Enix? With the amount of takes people here have, you'd think all feedback was constructive. Or important. Or relevant.

A well-structured survey asking questions that relate to matters the studio is prepared to address can be incredibly useful. It's the primary reason real games issue regular surveys.

While we are encouraged by the game to provide feedback here, I'd agree much of it is completely useless.

[MisterNublet]

A well-structured survey asking questions that relate to matters the studio is prepared to address can be incredibly useful.

That would require the studio to be cognizant of issues with the game, and then actually admit that there are things that could be better or improved.

Something that this studio seems incapable of doing, even when faced with backlash.

[Striker44]

A well-structured survey asking questions that relate to matters the studio is prepared to address can be incredibly useful. It's the primary reason real games issue regular surveys.

I have played a ton of "real games" over the years...I can't recall even a single one ever issuing surveys at all, let alone "regular" ones...

[Mawlzy]

I have played a ton of "real games" over the years...I can't recall even a single one ever issuing surveys at all, let alone "regular" ones...

Check your spam folder.

[All_Nonsense]

I mean, can you blame Square-Enix?

I sure can actually. Here's how:

Presenting a list of failures that SE spent all of FF14's revenue on instead of making the game better over the past decade:


- Murdered: Soul Suspect*
- I am Setsuna
- Lost Sphear
- The Quiet Man
- Left Alive
- Babylon's Fall** & *
- Marvel's Avengers**
- Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy**
- Forspoken*
- Foamstars

* Studio divested or closed following release
**Catastrophic financial loss

--It has also been disclosed by SE that they have suffered a 140 million dollar loss due to "content abandonment loss"--
Poof. Gone. Vanished. Nothing to show or present for it, just 9,333,333 months worth of sub revenue tossed into the furnace

So yeah. All that money and none of it went into re-writing the engine, or significant and timely QoL updates, providing more content, or just making the current content in general any better. When's the last time we had a good event with good rewards? (spoiler: Summer 2023). Even the christmas event was lame this time around. Unbelievable how people continue to defend this blatant ripoff

[MaikoRaines]

I sure can actually. Here's how:

Presenting a list of failures that SE spent all of FF14's revenue on instead of making the game better over the past decade:


- Murdered: Soul Suspect*
- I am Setsuna
- Lost Sphear
- The Quiet Man
- Left Alive
- Babylon's Fall** & *
- Marvel's Avengers**
- Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy**
- Forspoken*
- Foamstars

* Studio divested or closed following release
**Catastrophic financial loss

--It has also been disclosed by SE that they have suffered a 140 million dollar loss due to "content abandonment loss"--
Poof. Gone. Vanished. Nothing to show or present for it, just 9,333,333 months worth of sub revenue tossed into the furnace

So yeah. All that money and none of it went into re-writing the engine, or significant and timely QoL updates, providing more content, or just making the current content in general any better. When's the last time we had a good event with good rewards? (spoiler: Summer 2023). Even the christmas event was lame this time around. Unbelievable how people continue to defend this blatant ripoff

TL;DR - Revenue from XIV, or any successful project, doesn’t get gift-wrapped and handed back to the dev team with a note that says “Go wild.” That money goes into the corporate pool — the same pool used to keep the entire operation from collapsing when a dozen other projects faceplant. It sucks, sure, but it’s how budgets function. If you think CS3 would magically keep all the profit from XIV, then I’ve got some NFTs to sell you.



Not defending anyone or anything here — just offering a reality check.

You do realize that revenue from successful projects like XIV doesn’t automatically go straight back into that specific game's budget, right? That’s not how corporate budgets work. If Creative Studio 3 made bank, that money still gets absorbed into the larger company pool. It doesn’t just stay neatly in one corner of the building.

Failed projects, as frustrating as they are, still cost money. And it's the successful ones that often keep the lights on while the rest of the company burns through investment chasing new ideas — some that flop hard.

Do I agree with how Square Enix handles things? Not entirely.
Do I defend it? Depends — I care about FFXIV and want to see it thrive. I’d love to see every cent of its profit reinvested directly into making the game better, faster. But if the alternative is the company collapsing around it, then yeah, some of that money’s going to get siphoned off.

At the end of the day, this is a business. Businesses are going to do business things — whether we like it or not.

I’m not defending Square Enix — but let’s not pretend this is some unprecedented corporate scandal. This is just how big companies work.

[All_Nonsense]

I should have consulted my own gif

You're conflating my criticism of SE's lack of important and expensive attention being given to FF14 when they HAD the money, time, and player goodwill to do it with me somehow being unfamiliar with how corporations function in a fundamental sense.

Obviously any person who doesn't have a crater in their head knows that when the golden goose is laying eggs, it doesn't get to enjoy all of the eggs. But if you never feed it or maintain its health? Eggs might not be so golden one day. I was showing that instead of literally putting the minimal (or at least medium) effort into advancing their game's technology and gameplay model, they were instead trying to somehow synthesize another golden goose, or were otherwise negligent with their management of FF14 and their income flow, which has now reached a state that it will likely never recover from. SE will probably begin to languish from this point forward in its entirety, not just FF14. Basically they were spending all of their money on the worst ideas ever conceived, and the only people who couldn't understand this were somehow the ones who were cutting the checks.