The state of the Game

[Astronema]

a visual aid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp9cL458Qns

[Khryseis_Astra]

I absolutely disagree. I do not want to prepare for a fight by memorizing 32 different boss spells and the exact meaning where to run when the boss casts spell 18. This is a game, not a Latin school exam. I'm all for challenging fights, but decyphering crude boss emotes in real time is not challenging - it's annoying. That's why I don't bother with anything in this game beyond the MSQ.

Same. I do Extremes, and I’d say that’s about the height of what my brain can process. lol I’ve enjoyed blind progs of Savage, but like you say all the study and prep work and having to perform absolutely perfectly just isn’t what I consider fun, so I do most Savages unsynced well after they’re current. I much prefer things where it’s a little challenging, but you can usually learn it quickly enough to get through in an evening.

[AzhreiVahlok]

totally agree with Gwen's quote.... prolly why i normally don't even BOTHER with anything harder than savages and most of the time (I'm behind on msq anyway) other FC people and maybe some randoms unsync it anyway.

Also i don't study and do prep work for a dang game.... I die i just ask what happened (cause 99% of the time i didn't see wth happened rofl). People tend to explain, you learn what to look out for, you learn it (There HAVE been a few times i'd watch a vid by MSQCapture on youtube REALLY fast in the middle of a run when we all wipe lol)... but ya it's annoying the random indicators you've NEVER SEEN BEFORE or some crap and u don't know what the boss just did sometimes... lol

[savarna]

One thing I absolutely hate, and this might just be me playing old-school MMOs versus modern ones, is how quickly gear gets phased out in this game. It doesn’t hold any meaningful value beyond just glamours. You know how it is in Souls games, or even going back to FFXI? The effort and hours you put in gave you a real sense of fulfillment and pride because you were wearing a piece of armor with stats that could easily carry you through future content. In FFXI, there were armor pieces at level 30 that could still be best-in-slot when you hit level 75. How you got that gear wasn’t something everyone was willing to do because it was hard, but dang it, you were the celebrity and star of the show (Ultimates are a far cry from that at best).

Now it’s like, “Oh yeah, I do savage content,” but in a very short spawn of patches, that gear will be completely useless and replaced by low level tier crafted or dropped armor sets from regular dungeons. How is everyone okay with this? And if you didn’t like the glamour that much, it’s just forgotten, with no sentiment or nostalgia attached. In my opinion, that’s something that really needs to change. I hate how this content is dictated by these super predictable cycles that make the game so boring.

Where’s the excitement, the joy of seeing developers think outside the box and finally step out of their comfort zone? Sadly, we’re partly to blame because we’ve accommodated their lazy development habits. While it’s not terrible, it’s so repetitive that there’s no thrill even in watching live letters anymore, because you anticipate what’s coming next and end up just looking at screenshots posted on Reddit. Our brains have become so rewashed by their patterns that it’s reached a point where development mistakes are very evident. When it’s blatantly obvious they’re cutting corners, it really shows.

Anyway, I don’t expect everyone to understand, but my hope is that this game changes. I love this game, and because I do, I criticize it so it can get better, and the developers will take action. This is not charity, we are paying for a service, and we deserve better.

[AzhreiVahlok]

One thing I absolutely hate, and this might just be me playing old-school MMOs versus modern ones, is how quickly gear gets phased out in this game. It doesn’t hold any meaningful value beyond just glamours. You know how it is in Souls games, or even going back to FFXI? The effort and hours you put in gave you a real sense of fulfillment and pride because you were wearing a piece of armor with stats that could easily carry you through future content. In FFXI, there were armor pieces at level 30 that could still be best-in-slot when you hit level 75. How you got that gear wasn’t something everyone was willing to do because it was hard, but dang it, you were the celebrity and star of the show (Ultimates are a far cry from that at best).

Now it’s like, “Oh yeah, I do savage content,” but in a very short spawn of patches, that gear will be completely useless and replaced by low level tier crafted or dropped armor sets from regular dungeons. How is everyone okay with this? And if you didn’t like the glamour that much, it’s just forgotten, with no sentiment or nostalgia attached. In my opinion, that’s something that really needs to change. I hate how this content is dictated by these super predictable cycles that make the game so boring.

Where’s the excitement, the joy of seeing developers think outside the box and finally step out of their comfort zone? Sadly, we’re partly to blame because we’ve accommodated their lazy development habits. While it’s not terrible, it’s so repetitive that there’s no thrill even in watching live letters anymore, because you anticipate what’s coming next and end up just looking at screenshots posted on Reddit. Our brains have become so rewashed by their patterns that it’s reached a point where development mistakes are very evident. When it’s blatantly obvious they’re cutting corners, it really shows.

Anyway, I don’t expect everyone to understand, but my hope is that this game changes. I love this game, and because I do, I criticize it so it can get better, and the developers will take action. This is not charity, we are paying for a service, and we deserve better.

Idk i get to a new expansion (or the next ten lvls) i just get the poetic gear for the base..... I'm taking a break from the game pretty much until i knock out my ps4 backlog, but i'm AT just starting Post EW. Once you hit 50 all you need is poetic gear for the base (add more stats with materia if u want) then just keep using the glam you like. I've never been locked outta doing content. I haven't tried any ultimates but i do savages, sometimes synced but usualy unsynced.

[Zakuyia]

I dont think its annoying to see this topic if your passionate about the game wanna see it get better ofvourse. What I'm struggling with understanding is how this pkayer base is deemed as a wholesome community.....when its not.

Ppl would rather see the game fail, report ppl for trying get the game back on track, get annoyed at post....if you dont like it dont comment on said post, and finally gaving a dev team who are literally tone death when it comes to the state of game.....im struggling to understand why you would destroy your cash cow for few clowns who dont care about this game.

[savarna]

I dont think its annoying to see this topic if your passionate about the game wanna see it get better ofvourse. What I'm struggling with understanding is how this pkayer base is deemed as a wholesome community.....when its not.

Ppl would rather see the game fail, report ppl for trying get the game back on track, get annoyed at post....if you dont like it dont comment on said post, and finally gaving a dev team who are literally tone death when it comes to the state of game.....im struggling to understand why you would destroy your cash cow for few clowns who dont care about this game.

My thoughts exactly. Even when it comes to giving actual and structured feedback, they take it too personal, clouded by their fanboyism to Yoshi P who they place on a pedestal mumbling the same mind-numbing things over like 'Stop playing it if you don't like it'. Unless the man is paying you, you're just part of a cult or a troll.

I wish these people would drill this into their troglodyte minds...WE ARE PAYING for the service, so we as customers, have the right to criticize it. Is just as easy as your favorite restaurant that you’ve been going to for ages and suddenly their food quality drops to garbage levels, you criticize it so they get back on track to what once made them good for you to eat there on repeat and even bring your family and friends. Why is this so hard to understand, is beyond?

Over time, this community has grown very toxic around this, so I don't even know how they still consider themselves 'Wholesome'.

[Shinku_Tachi]

My thoughts exactly. Even when it comes to giving actual and structured feedback, they take it too personal, clouded by their fanboyism to Yoshi P who they place on a pedestal mumbling the same mind-numbing things over like 'Stop playing it if you don't like it'. Unless the man is paying you, you're just part of a cult or a troll.

I wish these people would drill this into their troglodyte minds...WE ARE PAYING for the service, so we as customers, have the right to criticize it. Is just as easy as your favorite restaurant that you’ve been going to for ages and suddenly their food quality drops to garbage levels, you criticize it so they get back on track to what once made them good for you to eat there on repeat and even bring your family and friends. Why is this so hard to understand, is beyond?

Over time, this community has grown very toxic around this, so I don't even know how they still consider themselves 'Wholesome'.

Fortunately, for those hoping for some change. The backlash has been big enough that it was even brought up at a shareholders meeting. SE is 100% aware. The player data corroborates the backlash too, so it's long past the point of being able to be explained away by the toxic positivity crowd.

I'm optimistic they'll be able to course-correct tho. They have before, as you know.

[savarna]

Fortunately, for those hoping for some change. The backlash has been big enough that it was even brought up at a shareholders meeting. SE is 100% aware. The player data corroborates the backlash too, so it's long past the point of being able to be explained away by the toxic positivity crowd.

I'm optimistic they'll be able to course-correct tho. They have before, as you know.

Thank you! I will remain optimistic.

[Hallarem]

Fortunately, for those hoping for some change. The backlash has been big enough that it was even brought up at a shareholders meeting. SE is 100% aware. The player data corroborates the backlash too, so it's long past the point of being able to be explained away by the toxic positivity crowd.

I'm optimistic they'll be able to course-correct tho. They have before, as you know.

Question is, will they course correct in a large manner or will it be some pity crumbs like Viera and Hrotgar hair