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    Quote Originally Posted by Pipozame View Post
    I think your perspective is valid, but so is that of other indigenous people/minorities in this thread.

    Your education doesn't give you a monopoly on this topic; if you truly represent minorities you should understand other opinions matter and no minority is a monolith.
    It’s absolute BS. The offended have never lived in South Ametica. The armours have nothing to see with coquistador outfits. It’s fake and ingorant outrage by foreigners and that’s the offensive part in all this.
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    Where do you live irl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by G13Raven View Post
    [This has already been brought up on the General forums but I feel its important to be mentioned here aswell]

    As said in the title the previewed armours for the 7.3 dungeon showcases armours with blatant influences comparable to the colonising forces that attacked the America\\'s centuries ago

    Especially after all the fiasco\\'s with wrongly depicted cultures before you\\'d think they\\'d avoid doing this again. Most of the future sets seem fine(someone more knowledgeable than me may correct me-) but two of the sets appear to have strong influence from European armours of the 1500s? Particularly spanish and french influence which would be fine in another setting but- in a Latin American and SEA influenced context can be extremely insensitive considering the history behind those forces and what they did to those regions

    Some potential alterations to the sets to lessen this invocation of historical genocides of the cultures we\\'re representing so we don\\'t accidentally put fascistic themes into our heroes\\' wardrobe. With better future consideration behind the contexts of such influences
    Im from peru, i think its not offensive, on the other hand its pretty cool.
    Thx to have us in mind but i think its worse if you fight for us when we dont find it bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfey View Post
    Comparing the Garlean Empire to Gulool Ja Ja is... definitely a choice.

    Anyway, throwing my hat in the ring on this too, in so much as wanting SE to listen to the people rightfully angry at this.
    It's been pretty disappointing from my perspective to go from reassurances from the writing team on how they were being careful about representation to multiple instances of gear being thoughtlessly added to the game in the manner it has. Regardless of the reality, it really doesn't inspire confidence that this all seemed to evaporate the moment we got to patch content.

    You completely misunderstood my post if that's the what you came out of it
    Dog there are H'awaiins today that still argue if King Kamehamehas unification of the islands was fully justified. As he (much smaller scale of five islands here) still had to go on a path of conquest and bloodshed as these were distinct tribes and families forced under one hegemony, under the reasoning that a singular power would be better off against colonial powers.

    This is the SAME reason the Japanese imperial war machine had , as one of its many excuses, of "panasianism" to be a "anti colonial" force to unify East and SE Asia (under Japan, who gets to be too dog) against the west post WWI. This is a reason people HATED higan absorbing the very mongol Inspired tribes under the fold, that idea of any sort of pan asianism from jp dev runs people the wrong way, even if the in game people were more Chinese inspired.

    That's the issue with empire, with monarchy and cultural hegemony. When you have pan-whatever grand cultures it's always at the expense of the many with "one" on top , it was greatly a historical for a precontact inspired society, one significantly based on both the Mexica empire and the Incas to not be one drought with border desputes and cultural erasure.

    Any imperial is bad, all of it. Because it enforces a cultural hegemony that supercedes smaller cultural identities as a point.
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    How can we tell you're the real deal and not lying yourself?
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    Tired of ignoramus trying to cancel things based on factually incorrect claims. The claims are incorrect here. This is a narrow bluesky community organized action with a bunch of generic posts.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 07-19-2025 at 02:58 AM.

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    Greetings adventurers of Eorzea,

    I wish to extend my thanks to you all regarding your feedback of the armor sets which were recently announced. Unfortunately, as this thread seems to have strayed from the initial topic, we shall be closing this thread at this time. We apologize any inconvenience this may cause.

    While we always welcome discussions on the forums, we do ask that you keep in mind our rules and policies. By doing so, we can keep conversations constructive.

    Thank you all very much for your understanding and I wish you all the best in your adventures through Eorzea and beyond!

    - Game Master Zettanulja
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