Thread: The 7.3 Armour preview is offensive

Originally Posted by DreadCrow

...alright, I need someone to explain something to me...

Why is it bad to give a fictional nation that's a stand in for European colonialization of the Americas and armor set that reflects that..? Alexandria is an antagonist force, for the most part. Fantasy fiction has a long history of drawing on real world imagery for visual short hand. Hell, this game does. The armor existing is no more in support of that than the Garlean armor sets from Endwalker are in support of fascism.

There's three big problems with this idea.


1. It's just bad taste to be getting conquistador-themed apparel in an expansion themed around pre-contact American cultures.


2. Alexandria lost most of its medieval influences before it got thrown onto the Source.


3. These designs... aren't archeo-Alexandrian. The motifs are very Turali... which implies this gear is Turali, i.e. not representative of the culture that colonized Yyasulani.

What a ridiculous thread. I really don’t see the conquistador armour here and it isn’t even about conquest: it’s about old Alexandria. The biggest influence in the non Turali type glams is French (btw 17th century musketeers did not cross the ocean).

Originally Posted by IcarusAvery

It's just bad taste to be getting conquistador-themed apparel in an expansion themed around pre-contact American cultures..

there is no conquistador armour. It’s also not pre-contact: you arrive at a big port on a European style ship in a resort town where jazz is playing and where there is a luxury hotel, the food is international with a bunch of modern dishes, some that have nothing to see with Latam (btw did you know tacos al pastor have 20th century Lebanese roots and were initally called tacos árabes?); there is a multitude of people around from various origins. The cowboys are even already there shooting each other; the locals are looking at setting up tourist infrastructure and activities…

I guess when you are looking hard at ways to feel offended you can always find something (can I be offended by how Mexican and American the “Peruvian” Pelupelu parts are? I won’t because it’s all fictional and it’s not meant to be historical, cultural, architectural or geographical accurate: it’s a fantasy land)…funny how many of the “offended” are one time posters. Most seem American or European as well from the language used in their posts.

Idk, im also Latino with a Yaqui backround, from the Sonoran side of the border.

Im sure pople of more nahuatal descent might feel diffrent.

But i really dont give too much of a shit, i fell there realy is more pressing matters to be caring about than this.

Originally Posted by contresixtes

I was at fanfest where it was stated they had cultural consultants.

Oh you absolutely could tell that there was with how absolutely toothless the story of DT was. FFXIV for near 5 of its mais stories has gone on again and again of "imperial xpansion is le bad" and you get to another cultural mindset, whre Galool Jaja clearly xpanded the territory of his city state to emcompass TWO continents , and suddenly everyone is ok with "good" imperiaism? that no blood shed and tthe tribal people stll have beef with eachother and not the super empire Led by a effecivly one tribes messiah god king? evreyone was prfectly ok with panamericanism/ panativism? you can tel there were cultural consultants there and gott too worried about portraying any negatives at all, ignoring pre contact Empire and wars of resources. Hell , so sanded down, that Ketterman, a European styled "Explorer" has literal fuck alll to do besides sitting on his ass and no negative consquences to him appearing yeears ago.