Now that the game is officially on its deathbed, what are your thoughts?

[Jeeqbit]

We are.

Context is that graph is specifically of people with achievements enabled, which is usually achievement hunters or the types that are invested enough to care about collecting things - so it excludes the types that just do MSQ, roulettes, login casually or otherwise don't care about collecting mounts and achievements due to RP and social activities.

It's still relevant. Its significance is that the achievement/collector types are often the very invested, very knowledgeable, veteran mentor types and it's saying that they are (potentially) giving up despite their sunk cost.

But it's not the same as the graph of players overall which, last I checked, was more around Shadowbringers levels rather than Stormblood levels. Obviously this is because people who have invested a significant amount of hours are more likely to be bored or unhappy than the more casual players that don't register on collecting websites.

[Mawlzy]

Context is that graph is specifically of people with achievements enabled, which is usually achievement hunters or the types that are invested enough to care about collecting things - so it excludes the types that just do MSQ, roulettes, login casually or otherwise don't care about collecting mounts and achievements due to RP and social activities.

It's still relevant. Its significance is that the achievement/collector types are often the very invested, very knowledgeable, veteran mentor types and it's saying that they are (potentially) giving up despite their sunk cost.

But it's not the same as the graph of players overall which, last I checked, was more around Shadowbringers levels rather than Stormblood levels. Obviously this is because people who have invested a significant amount of hours are more likely to be bored or unhappy than the more casual players that don't register on collecting websites.

It mirrors the steam charts in overall form.

HW numbers by the end of 2026.

[CidHeiral]

regarding the state of jobs, ya its a bit samey since they didnt change rotation much, however 2min meta its still very fun and exciting to play specially in the savage raids, if the devs put the right fight designs it will be fun, and i m in full support of the way the game currently is, the ff14 playerbase is just low intellect if u dont like it go play other games :P

Calling everyone low intellect while also saying how much you love all the jobs being totally braindead is a wild take.

[Rizlee]

Calling everyone low intellect while also saying how much you love all the jobs being totally braindead is a wild take.

hey i gave fair input throughout the years and the devs along with the playerbase kept being against it (ew and before), hence i just got used to the job rotations being braindead and accepted it that things wont change, i think its best if things remain the way it is since we are already used to it

[CidHeiral]

hey i gave fair input throughout the years and the devs along with the playerbase kept being against it (ew and before), hence i just got used to the job rotations being braindead and accepted it that things wont change, i think its best if things remain the way it is since we are already used to it

"Nothing should ever improve because I'm already used to the awful version" is an even wilder take.

[Emitans]

"Nothing should ever improve because I'm already used to the awful version" is an even wilder take.

To be fair, it seems to be the guiding principle of the development of this game.

[hydralus]

"Nothing should ever improve because I'm already used to the awful version" is an even wilder take.

The hottest take is that the changes to jobs are all things the players have asked for. Removing the cast timer for MCH, removal of too many punishing positionals, some tanks being better at tanking magic-heavy fights, etc etc, all to get standardized into what we have now.

[XtremePrime]

the ff14 playerbase is just low intellect if u dont like it go play other games :P

You could've made your argument just fine without having to resort to calling the playerbase "low intellect". It actually undermines whatever you said previously.

[pirosigma]

why are ppl mad i dont get it, Dawntrail has the best MSQ story since HW, Wuk Lamat is a great character, ppl just hating because of the VA, i think the writers did a fantastic job and hopefully we get more from them in the future patches and expansions

regarding the state of jobs, ya its a bit samey since they didnt change rotation much, however 2min meta its still very fun and exciting to play specially in the savage raids, if the devs put the right fight designs it will be fun, and i m in full support of the way the game currently is, the ff14 playerbase is just low intellect if u dont like it go play other games :P

Hello again.

You are the one who, just a month ago, promised to unsub and forget about the game because some people from a single discord field op community called you out on your mild BS. I know that some people don't follow their promises, but seeing you say "id you don't like it go play other games" to people when you can't really do it yourself.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-why-I-ll-quit