Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
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I agreed with Jeeq.


You can complete the ATMAS with a reduced rate from fates (aswell as work on shared fate or make gil) or you can do OC at an increased rate and work on jobs and K.Level.

At max K.level there's farms for gil aswell in which I have made over 200M gil from casually.

Once your ATMAS are done you pay Helio tomes for the rest and poetic next expansion. I would understand people moaning if all of them cost ATMAS.

From what you've said about your Knowledge Level you need to do the following:

Unlock the teleports -> complete fates -> do critical events. This increases your knowledge level and powers up your jobs and in turn provides a permanent damage up buff for each job maxed while in the zone. Moaning whilst not doing these makes you sound spoiled.

I seriously don't understand why people are moaning when they haven't even engaged with the systems. You may have a little time to play but saying you have to 'No life' the ATMA step is beyond a joke. You have till the next expansion to slowly progress the grind step..

Having everything handed out like candy is not the way to go at all like it was in EW and as Jeeq said there are other alternatives.

Anyway, I think FF needs more grinds to retain players because as it stands now, ppl have no reason to log in outside of daily / weekly / social groups etc and therefore in my opinion, this is why SE are losing players.

At the end of the day, this is a MMO you can't have everything unless you put some effort in.