Can Devs reconsider body checks in large raids seriously?

[Krojack]

A big problem up to 7.3 is being too catered to hardcore players - a big part is due to body checks. Body check punishes EVERYONE for someone else's mistakes, it's good for ultimate and savage, but

Look at chaotic alliance - 1 or 2 fails will wipe 24 players. It makes people very toxic - most toxic I've seen in my 6 years of play

Look at forked tower, supposedly midcore - misplacement can wipe the entire 48 people - it's not fun

The opposite (good) examples are bozja castrum, dalriada, delubrum, BA (excluding ozma). You fail a mechanic, you can die yourself and learn from it. Team won't get punished. It's fun.

This is what a midcore/casual content should be like. Yes, people can get carried, but what's the problem with that.

I think SE might be putting hardcore devs to design casual content. It's resulting in the mess in recent contents.

Please remove/reduce body checks in future midcore/casual contents, especially large raids. This will bring some hope back.

I don't recall any body checks in casual content. Not sure what you're referring to here.

Players: We want harder content!
SE: Ok here something harder.
Players: NO NOT LIKE THAT!

[Yodada]

Get Ready for more Bodycheck BS in the new Deep Dungeon. Ozma is designing Quantum.

[SkankyRoe]

Get Ready for more Bodycheck BS in the new Deep Dungeon. Ozma is designing Quantum.

Oh dear that is worrisome. Especially since he's now thrice "accidentally" made content Savage that was intended to be Extreme at the hardest, twice just in this expansion. Now I wonder if Quantum is getting modular difficulty partially as a means to mitigate that possibility; if Ozma fucks up again and pulls a fourth "oops savage again teehee" then at least it will be contained within the higher difficulty versions rather than spoiling the entire thing.

[YukioKobayashi]

A big problem up to 7.3 is being too catered to hardcore players

You can't be serious. "too catered to hardcore players" while at least 90% of the content released can be done without paying much attention. Midcore content needs to be punishing/challenging and not braindead. Even casual content shouldnt be braindead. This game is already too easy.
Thats something Shadowbringer babies dont understand. The chaotic alliance raid was the first of its kind, the first time the Dev's tried something like that. Now ask yourself, was ucob flawless on release? how about eureka anemos?
XIV has no real HC content besides ultimates and even those can be cleared by players that are terrible at the game.
git gud and stop whining.

[DoubleJustice]

Currently without body checks, there is effectively no fail state other than making a really really tight dps check. It's a bit of a corner that SE has backed itself into with fight and job design.

Personally I don't mind them in CAR. Chaotic has 2 body checks, one of them is a "did everyone go to the right platform check" and one of them is "did swaps get ruined/can people adjust to a bad swap" check.

I don't care for the body checks in Forked Tower though.

[Themarvin]

You can translate the same thing into hardcore content and giving the time needed to do the things....

Enrage timers could be entirely removed, but then be adding a bit more spice to complete content like savage and ultimates, meaning, you really need to be up for the task to get through it of course, so it comes down to if you got the skills more than being stuck on reaching some ilevel to able to just squeeses that 100 dps more in, it would open up the game much more and reduce the stupid idea about A teams vs B teams.