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    After reading the thread (and thanks for all your replies) I’m now genuinely angry at what SE is doing with the Mobile as it looks to me like it’s their take on Diablo Immortal. To summarise it, what we are getting with Mobile isn’t an extension of the real game, but a standalone cash grab with paywalled features. Partnership with Tencent only emphasises that point.
    I see a massive missed opportunity in not even trying to go down the RuneScape way and creating a true cross-platform FF XIV experience. If a game studio decides to make a mobile version of their game, it’s always for only two possible reasons:

    1. To expand the list of devices a game can be played on (cross-platform expansion).
    2. Milking every last penny from customers.

    Sadly, since FF XIV Mobile doesn’t seem to bring anything of value to current XIV player base, it truly seems like Mobile is just a big greedy insult to the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulvi View Post
    standalone cash grab with paywalled features.
    So mobile games which cost money to make and further develop should be 100% free ?
    The most major pay for feature that the mobile version of FFXIV has is having to have spent $5 worth of game currency and the most pay to win it gets is Materia. The F2P PC version is more restricted than the mobile version in features does that make the desktop version a paywalled cash grab ?

    For some reason western audiences seem to think that all mobile games have no development cost at all and should be fully free to pay with the pay for features so minor that barely anyone would buy them anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaoSen View Post
    So mobile games which cost money to make and further develop should be 100% free ?
    The most major pay for feature that the mobile version of FFXIV has is having to have spent $5 worth of game currency and the most pay to win it gets is Materia. The F2P PC version is more restricted than the mobile version in features does that make the desktop version a paywalled cash grab ?

    For some reason western audiences seem to think that all mobile games have no development cost at all and should be fully free to pay with the pay for features so minor that barely anyone would buy them anyways.
    No, they shouldn’t be free and F2P model needs some sort of monetisation - no issue there. My issue with Mobile is, that when we look at the big picture with FF XIV being the franchise on which Mobile is based, a standalone mobile game that doesn’t bring anything of value to the player base of “retail” FF XIV is a wasted opportunity that exists solely for the purpose of milking the cow without any added value or enrichment of player experience.

    I would love for Mobile to be something that is connected to “retail”. It could easily feature mini games that don’t make sense in desktop / console version of the game. Gold Saucer is one area of desktop / console version that could be creatively expanded through Mobile. Another idea that comes to mind is having an opportunity to chat with my FC mates on mobile when I don’t have access to desktop. There’s also countless systems in the “retail” that are completely overlooked today - Grand Company Squadrons (I’m not even sure if I remember its name correctly, that’s how abandoned it is), in game toy box, Mahjong, Triple Triad, Verminion… all of these systems and many more could be accessible through Mobile and they would actually bring some degree of usefulness and purpose to the whole idea of Mobile.

    When I take it to extreme, I see more value in paying for a cash shop item (glam, Fantasia etc.) than in paying for an unlock of a system in a mobile game, that is just a replay of ARR on a smaller screen, because a purchase made in the current cash shop gives me something that I can use in the desktop version of the game while with Mobile, I’m essentially paying for a New Game + on a mobile screen.

    The fact that the two games are disconnected from each other is the problem, not monetisation. I’d be happy to pay even a higher sub if FF XIV mobile was an extension of my desktop experience. There’s so many ways SE could’ve done this right, but they went for a lazy cash grab, that’s my biggest problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulvi View Post
    The fact that the two games are disconnected from each other is the problem, not monetisation. I’d be happy to pay even a higher sub if FF XIV mobile was an extension of my desktop experience. There’s so many ways SE could’ve done this right, but they went for a lazy cash grab, that’s my biggest problem.
    It makes sense they aren't connected though, they aren't being run by the same company. FFXIV is run and developed by Square Enix and FFXIV Mobile is run and developed by Lightspeed. I would be very displeased indeed if SE shared account info with Lightspeed in order to connect the two.
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    No, I don't play any games on my phone.
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    I don't plan to, but I hope both teams interact and learn from each other so that both games can be the best it can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetaBoi View Post
    I don't plan to, but I hope both teams interact and learn from each other so that both games can be the best it can be.
    While this is true, the problem is that we are dealing with Tencent and SE, so the lessons learned will be: tencent will learn they don't really need to put that much into the mobile version because some ppl will support them no matter what and SE will learn about all the new stuff they could put on the mogstation instead of in the game.

    The chance of either of them learning lessons that will benefit us and not them is ridiculously small. But I hope they prove me wrong
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    Last edited by MicahZerrshia; 07-14-2025 at 12:47 AM.

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    Nope, not interested in a mobile MMO.
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    Only mobile games i play are gacha games where i don't have to interact with other people unless needed too. like Brave Frontier onlything you did to meet someone was send them a friend request, to use thier unit to the most potential
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    Nope never have played any mobile MMO and have no plans to.
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