Finally tried WoW

[Masekase_Hurricane]

1. true
2. Features only work in undermind car and dragon FFXIV Choocbo with barding is better
3. questionable
4. You have to be joking
5a. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDOkGtnGM0s
5b. https://www.reddit.com/r/Trailerclub...ics_before_vs/
6. Have to be joking
7. we all know DPS is a 20-40min wait for herioc or normal
8. Dungeons are better and m+ rocks
9. true
10. traditional mmo 1 button gathering system no skills
11. circling world quest same as Fate grind so you must be new to WOW
12. Timewalking is mode that allows old dungeons to give catch up gear to new players and fills wows version of tomb grind, you cant do old story lines because of timewalking you have to create a new character and do chromie time
13. true
14. true but wow is 1 job per 1 character
15. And after new player boost he is kicked in everyone dungeon party once he moves to slow, cant get a normal raid pug because of lack of achievements, and is not getting m+ invite because of lack of raider.io
16. true
17. true
18. true

2. How? I can change wing type, colour, scales etc. I much prefer that to barding.
5. We too had one of those scenes which was a feck up. Check the rest of the current expansion cutscenes..
6. Not sure how when they give you a lift, talk while you walk instead of meet me here, then tell me a long story or bring me a sandwich, at least wow gets you to interact and make the sandwich :P
7. longest wait so far for normal was 9mins on dps. As for mythic not tried it yet, queues have still been max 9 mins at 1am
10. I'd take gathering with one button and getting exp on main class at the same time over a gathering rotation..
11. I think finally trying WoW means <drumroll>.... i'm new to WoW
15. Yes we see that in 14 dungeons too, but it's going to be prevalent in WoW due to more players..

[VictorSpoils]

Timewalking the best way of redoing storylines................................

moredotsmoredots

[AnnaUK]

I quit WoW years ago, and I will rather stop playing MMOs than to return to that sh*tshow. That's just me, of course.
But if you really think the grass is greener over there, check out their forums. Complaints over complaints over complaints. Lead dev is incompetent, story is garbage, setting sucks, mythic+ is the worst thing ever invented, and so on. Sounds familiar?

The fomo is the worst too.

[Shurrikhan]

15. And after new player boost he is kicked in everyone dungeon party once he moves to slow, cant get a normal raid pug because of lack of achievements, and is not getting m+ invite because of lack of raider.io

They have a Squadron-equivalent in WoW, through which one can learn the basics of dungeoning. And if he can manage said bare basics (follow tank, shoot the shootables and/or keep tank alive), he's unlikely to get kicked. Tanking is the only role more demanding (for frequent lack of XIV-style hallway-only dungeons).

Not being able to get into Normal Raid because of lack of achievements seems a cherrypicked exception to the norm. As for not getting into Heroic, see Savage PFs by week 3.

RaiderIO has not existed in quite a while, having been replaced with, in essence, incredibly granular in-game achievement points that, for the sake of letting others' know how much experience you have with Mythic+... simply measure exactly how far he's gotten in M+ (his best run, overall progress, and progress specifically in the dungeon he's signing up for).

This is like complaining about not being accepted to a clear party because you haven't yet completed phase 1 of a given fight. It's just that this is spread out among 10 difficulty levels each for 8 different dungeons per season.

When you average +3s and have at least a +3 in the dungeon you're going for, it's not hard to be accepted into a +4 or even a +5 so long as you're reasonably geared for that difficulty level. The larger factor, usually, is what utilities/raidbuffs you bring, as WoW tends to be a bit more "bring the class, not just the player" than XIV does.

[TheRealDesastr]

WoW has so much more to offer than XIV at this point. ESPECIALLY for collectors. FFXIV did have housing over WoW as a draw - but now WoW will have housing. There's 0 point in me collecting in this game if I'm not interested in just one character, and to me personally, the 'all jobs on one character' thing isn't appealing at all. Especially as a roleplayer of multiple characters.

Why would I go out of my way to collect or do content if it doesn't fit my main, because I need to repeat EVERYTHING on every single other character? It's ridiculous.

Not to mention, WoW also has the monthly trading post which again adds a ton of new stuff.

FFXIV we're lucky to get maybe like 3 new mounts per patch, all mostly locked behind current content which again for collectors is pointless to do. WoW had mount rewards for collecting as well.

It's just... tiresome. I did come from WoW (Shadowlands) so, sure, I may have bias. I'm only still playing FFXIV because all of my roleplays and stories are here, but I'm not going to lie and say I'm not insanely jealous of all of the new stuff WoW is getting while we're sitting here twiddling our thumbs with content that's not enticing at all.

I mean, cool, new stuff, 7.3. Why bother doing it at all, and why bother ever getting anything from the shop if it's mostly not account bound. It boggles. my. mind.

Gods, I wish SE would actually take examples from WoW which at this point will have so much more to offer now.

And my goodness am I so tired of people throwing the MuLtIpLe JoBs On OnE ChArAcTer nonsense in my face, I sincerely do not care. I like having multiple characters, that's the whole point. Playing a single one is so lackluster and I know for a fact I'm not alone, or even in the minority.

I actually did content in WoW because there was a point and the combat system just felt... better. As did PvP. Just.. sigh. And yes, before someone screams 'so go back to WoW', I would. But my FC and stories, again, are all here in XIV, so I'd prefer the game get better and take examples from another game that offers so much more now.

[FudoMyoo]

Catch you later, and For the Horde! (or For the Alliance!—no judgment).

Kthxbye!

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Catch you later, and For the Horde! (or For the Alliance!—no judgment).

Kthxbye!

feck the Alliance :P

[kumikosi]

I love playing Both WoW on and off but definitely both have their ups and downs. The housing changes will be a nice addition but I never usually stay subscribed to WoW for more than 2-3 months at a time before swapping off. This month has been amazing with the collector's bounty to increase historic farms. Got pretty much everything I had been doing weekly farms for in the past done. My own gripes with the game though tend to be:

-WoW I feel tends to be a lot glitchier with things. Now this is all from my own experiences. Bosses bugging out or becoming unkillable. Quest npcs breaking to the point you need to go google a WoWhead comment section for something from 2018 saying -Yeah this is bugged. Do X to fix it. Or drop/retry-.
-No bad luck protection. After literally 500+ pulls to get the Antoran Charhound on 10 alts running that raid on 4 difficulties I truly thought my mind was going to break. Hell the entire reason this collector's bounty event is so amazing is because it is bringing things from a sub 1% chance to a 5-6% chance on most of these mounts.
-Much greater use of FOMO. So many transmogs and mounts are just unobtainable if you do not play during the period they were released. Keystones mounts, Ahead of the Curve titles/mounts, Mage Tower, Artifact skins, Challenge mode etc.

[MetaBoi]

I never usually stay subscribed to WoW for more than 2-3 months at a time before swapping off.

I feel like this is a somewhat healthy way to play games. Especially live service ones. Play for a while till you're satisfied then take a break to play other games or do your other hobbies.

[Miradelle]

WoW has better infrastructure and netcoding than FFXIV, which SQE will absolutely never fix, especially now that they apparently are running out of money lol. That's the biggest issue, so don't expect dungeons to get as fun as WoW dungeons, because the framework isn't there. WoW has always been gameplay-wise stronger, from m+ and to actually functioning rated PvP. The only thing I like more in FF gameplay is the raiding, because WoW raiding is so awful, and their raids are generally as boring and lame as FF's dungeons.