Finally tried WoW

[NightHour]

While some of the points you mention would be nice to have in FF14, it mainly signals that you are extremely burned out of FF14, which is okay. It's nice to go and play other games. Many games have features that I would like to see in FF14, but I also know they might not be easily implemented or fit well with the game.

It's natural that after playing for so long, you see all of the imperfections and many things that can be improved. I am sure that you will see the same things after you have played WoW for long enough. Each game has its shortcomings, and none is perfect.

It would be nice, however, for SE to look around and improve/adopt/innovate in the game.

While I do not agree with many of the complaints made in the forums, ultimately, they do push SE to stop their current slop and feel pressured again to step up their game.

Being burnt out means you're overwhelmed with stuff to do.


You can't be burnt out of something if that something gives you nothing to do.



People are bored, not burnt out.

[ArmaDragkun]

Being burnt out means you're overwhelmed with stuff to do.


You can't be burnt out of something if that something gives you nothing to do.



People are bored, not burnt out.

I dunno I got burnt out of WoW after playing for many years although for me it was a moment of "Why the hell am I logging in?" Sure there are dungeons to run ect but at the end of the day it became a job. Doing the dungeons pushing keys getting score. All for what? Some 15 year old to quote that my class isn't "meta" right now so get refused from a dungeon I've run 100 times before?

Wouldn't say I was overwhelmed with stuff to do.

[Gortys]

2. The customization is color and the chocobo has that. Some in WoW require certain items be turned in to an NPC. Most mounts in WoW are offered as reskins in other content or the cash shop so there are not that many customizable mounts. I think the variety of ways to get mounts is a better brag for WoW such as the Long-Forgotten Hippogryph.

4. The only people I know who did side quests were farming for reputation with a certain faction or an achievement.

5. Fully voiced, but horribly. It's like they are all exhausted and have to catch their breath? They have to... stress the same word in... every sentence every.... time with unnecessary.... pauses in the middle of sentences.

6. I just find these type of quests to be boring as well as the follow quests in FFXIV.

8. So you can finish your quest, but the rest of the group will be at the last boss before you catch up or may even finish it. If you are doing it with personal friends, that is fine, but not everyone is.

11. I would say that neither game is my ideal MMO when it comes to feeling like I'm an adventurer. Both have a "formula" that is easily seen if played enough.

12. TW can be great or completely broken. I started taking TW week off rather than wondering where my sub money was going. Sound familiar?

13. The glamour storage system is better, but dying is part of a glamour system and you can't do that in WoW. WoW uses recolors of gear for other content or on the cash shop. Other MMO's outshine both XIV and WoW in this dept.

14. I don't have alts in FFXIV. The fact that this is your plus says a lot about WoW's story. Why do you want to skip something that is so good? In fact, my FFXIV peeve is not being able to use NG+ to level jobs. Sometimes I just want to remember some lore or experience part of the game again and it would be nice if I could get some alt job XP at the same time.

15-18. These things never impressed me much either way I guess? I don't agree or disagree? As for a token to level an alt? I was able to level them typically and would often forget I had the token. It's super fast to level in WoW now.

I play quite a few MMO's I like for many reasons. They are all different and that's a good thing. Even now I can't say I will be permanently gone for WoW, but I also haven't seen anything to bring me back. Legion is what brought me back the first time. I think most people should play a variety of games to figure out what they would enjoy and not just stick to any one. This also means less "sunken cost fallacy". I guess from playing so many MMO's, including Wildstar, I've just learned to not get too attached. Even that unique mount? Blizzard may decide it's too unique so then you have a "water strider" you quested for and it can no longer "stride" on water.

[Striker44]

Being burnt out means you're overwhelmed with stuff to do.


You can't be burnt out of something if that something gives you nothing to do.



People are bored, not burnt out.

That's...not at all what being burnt out means. You can have exactly the right amount of stuff to do, but do it for long enough or intensively enough, and you'll likely experience burnout. I remember back in my WoW days, our guild's little raid group decided to go for a Heroic mount. We had only done "normal" raiding up to that point, so we did the raid on Normal, practiced, and gradually prog'd the Heroic version. It was a ton of fun, and we loved when we finally completed the Heroic raid...and then promptly put our raid group on hiatus for a couple months because we were burned out for a while even though there were still other raids (Heroic versions) we had never tried. Same with a different guild I had been in that loved World PvP...it took us several weeks, but we finally organized a server group that killed all 4 of the other faction's leaders (back before "phasing" screwed that up)...and yep, despite having a blast, we put the PvP on hold for a bit after we accomplished that because we were burned out.

FFXIV has a ton of stuff to do. In true MMO fashion, though, a fair amount of that involves doing the same stuff repeatedly, whether it be raiding, PvP seasons, etc.. That can (and will) absolutely burn someone out over time. (Random side note - the average American will hold ~12 jobs over their working career, changing jobs about every 3-4 years. It's often not changing careers, just employers, because even without being "overwhelmed", humans have a natural desire to explore new things. Do the same thing (or play the same game) for long enough, and you'll likely get burnt out for a time no matter what.

[Basteala]

Wait, you're telling me a game you've never played before somehow feels more fresh than a game you've played for a decade?!!

I mean let's be real. FF14 fights are reusing mechanics and they're running out of obscure mechanics to reuse. FF14 jobs (at least within their roles), are dumbed down and nearly identical save for small variations. That's *going* to get old fast.

[MsQi]

Hunter being my personal favourite. The fact I can take almost any mob, tame it, make it my pet and take it through all content is super cool!

Hunter is one of the best things wow has to offer. Unfortunately they are constantly going back and forth on how much class customization they are willing to let you have, on every class.

...you do realize that racials are one of the most complained about things with characters, right?

Proves it's a good concept.

[Gortys]

Proves it's a good concept.

By this logic everyone loves DT then.

[Hallarem]

I see the good ol' "You're just burned out, go play other games" gaslighting is live and kicking still. It's not like the game has grinded to a halt and is the graveyard of innovation. Where they try absolutely nothing to give you something new down to recycled music. Most MMO's offer new features and fixes in their new expansions.
With FFXIV it's a slideshow of "Oh look at the new colored tapestry the same shit is in, hope you enjoy fates with the same music over and over."

10 year plan my ass, nice try Yoshi P. It's looking more like a 10-yen savings plan at the moment. CANT WAIT FOR THE REMAKES ROLLING IN and not to buy them.

[Gwenkatsu]

I think now is the right time to step into this thread and politely ask all participants to stop using comparisons.

Though I must admit: that last post made me laugh way more than it should have.

[CapaxInfiniti]

I see the good ol' "You're just burned out, go play other games" gaslighting is live and kicking still. It's not like the game has grinded to a halt and is the graveyard of innovation. Where they try absolutely nothing to give you something new down to recycled music. Most MMO's offer new features and fixes in their new expansions.
With FFXIV it's a slideshow of "Oh look at the new colored tapestry the same shit is in, hope you enjoy fates with the same music over and over."

10 year plan my ass, nice try Yoshi P. It's looking more like a 10-yen savings plan at the moment. CANT WAIT FOR THE REMAKES ROLLING IN and not to buy them.

Let's be honest.
When 8.0 hits and there's no meaningful changes in sight, Yoshi will just cry crocodile tears on stream and the white knights will rush to defend any criticism at all about how once again we were lied to, like it's not an increasingly occurring thing.
At least after 8.0 we can all actually accept that Yoshi won't ever change and neither will this game under him. If he's canned, then we can have hopium again. If he stays, then we can have closure that XIV is a foregone conclusion when we unsub.

It's all about closure, really.