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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    We throw lots and lots of money at Square-Enix for this game.

    Square-Enix, unfortunately, throws significantly less money at this game.

    Final Fantasy XIV struggles with great developers in a piss-poor company that doesn't take its playerbase seriously.
    The bigger question to me is how much money is allocated to CS3 as a whole, because everything beyond that is almost entirely on the one man that's managing it. I know that XVI's development was paused at one point because of 6.0's development, but with that era of XIV having ended, how much money and manpower is Yoshida allocating to it versus the overpriced Tactics remake and the Sakaguchi game?
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    Do you think getting so involved into a game that you can stop anytime acceptable ?
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    It depends on the context. It's impossible to develop everything imaginable due to costs, of course.

    But in the context of the Occult Crescent Zone and the Forked Tower Blood Raid? No, I can't accept that as an excuse. I can't accept their decision to create a Casual Zone just to focus on creating a Hardcore-only Raid.

    And to this day, I also can't agree with them releasing Glamours, Emotes, and Mounts exclusively for the Cash Shop, especially since many of them could easily be in-game rewards. But I also understand that the Cash Shop isn't completely under Yoshi-P's control (cough cough Yoichi Wada).

    Still, it's a shame that I feel like my subscription money isn't being put to good use and that I might stop playing in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    ... they had only decided to make a Field Operation right before the expansion release due to Zepla's video, so they didn't actually have as much time to plan it as they did all their other content.
    May I ask what Zepla's video has to do with OC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    The bigger question to me is how much money is allocated to CS3 as a whole, because everything beyond that is almost entirely on the one man that's managing it. I know that XVI's development was paused at one point because of 6.0's development, but with that era of XIV having ended, how much money and manpower is Yoshida allocating to it versus the overpriced Tactics remake and the Sakaguchi game?
    Yoshida isn't the one with the decision making power on where money gets allocated in SE. He's not even on the board anymore and even then, that power still wasn't his. I get you're upset, rightly so, but let's put the blame where it lies in regards to the financial situation XIV is in.

    Does that mean Yoshida gets a pass on other things that ARE within his control and fell short? No. Just...accountability where it's due.
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    Who is to blame is not our problem to solve, it's theirs.

    Our problem is to make them listen how we are unsatisfied with the game they're delivering to us.

    It's unacceptable this kind of amateurism.

    Occult Crescent feels like it was made by people who never played a single MMO in their lives.

    Forked Tower feels like something copied from an anime like Sword Art Online Season 2.

    FFXIV devs, don't you guys have PCs?
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandr View Post
    Who is to blame is not our problem to solve, it's theirs.

    Our problem is to make them listen how we are unsatisfied with the game they're delivering to us.

    It's unacceptable this kind of amateurism.

    Occult Crescent feels like it was made by people who never played a single MMO in their lives.

    Forked Tower feels like something copied from an anime like Sword Art Online Season 2.

    FFXIV devs, don't you guys have PCs?
    It's Japan, of course they don't
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    He prefaced the cost excuse saying he knew it wasn't a good excuse to give to customers.

    I don't quite buy it myself. I think they never even considered doing a Forked Tower Normal, or specifically chose not to given the "DRS support was too good" comment. They could have made a normal instead of the one we got for presumably similar cost. So the real issue is just design. Whoever was making those decisions is at fault, not a lack of money/manpower/whatever costs.
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    It's an acceptable answer, it's just not usually an answer we'd hear. It's almost certain there has always been content cut due to budget! lots of content doesn't have normal or savage modes.
    There was too many quality issues around Forked Tower that had to be addressed, so it was.
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    Last edited by SalamanderIX; 07-10-2025 at 08:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter2 View Post
    I don't think they've ever directly said so (that would be a PR disaster) but the idea is to have diverse revenue streams so that the company is still healthy even if one revenue stream suffers. A lot of SE games have flopped though, so in hindsight that money would have been much better spent ensuring that XIV is a reliable financial backbone of the company.
    The exact same mistake CCP/PA made with EVE Online. Every attempt at diversifying the revenue stream resulted in financial losses and antagonizing the players of EVE.
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