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    Hot take: REMOVE CASUAL. Funnel everyone into a ranked queue and just call it CC, don't use the word ranked or casual. Seriously, there is no cost or loss in doing ranked, so why have a casual queue at all to split people up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
    Hot take: REMOVE CASUAL. Funnel everyone into a ranked queue and just call it CC, don't use the word ranked or casual. Seriously, there is no cost or loss in doing ranked, so why have a casual queue at all to split people up?
    Bad take. This alienates players that want to practice jobs in a 5v5 environment or feel ranked anxiety when playing Ranked modes in games, because they will now feel responsible for the losses their teammates might incur. Remove casual CC and the casual players will not offboard from Casual into Ranked, they will go and do Frontlines/Rival Wings. This is not the way, the lack of players in Ranked can barely be attributed to split queues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Bad take. This alienates players that want to practice jobs in a 5v5 environment or feel ranked anxiety when playing Ranked modes in games, because they will now feel responsible for the losses their teammates might incur. Remove casual CC and the casual players will not offboard from Casual into Ranked, they will go and do Frontlines/Rival Wings. This is not the way, the lack of players in Ranked can barely be attributed to split queues.
    Being afraid to make your bronze/unranked teammates lose is a bit odd, but funneling everyone into one queue i feel like is more valuable than considering people's anxiety. The ranked queue is dead because people would rather press the casual button so just kill the casual button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Bad take. This alienates players that want to practice jobs in a 5v5 environment or feel ranked anxiety when playing Ranked modes in games, because they will now feel responsible for the losses their teammates might incur. Remove casual CC and the casual players will not offboard from Casual into Ranked, they will go and do Frontlines/Rival Wings. This is not the way, the lack of players in Ranked can barely be attributed to split queues.
    Practice part is true, but the anxiety™ people never touch ranked anyway. Maybe if they went back to having no rank decay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    Practice part is true, but the anxiety™ people never touch ranked anyway. Maybe if they went back to having no rank decay.
    I know. Now imagine if you merge Ranked and Casual. The "anxiety™ people" as you call them (also those suffering from impostwr syndrome) not only not interact with Ranked, but in this hypothetical scenario also Crystalline Conflict in general because anxiety doesn't just go away from merging modes.

    Basically it a placebo change for those that believe this to be the issue until reality hits again, that this change benefitted nobody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
    Hot take: REMOVE CASUAL. Funnel everyone into a ranked queue and just call it CC, don't use the word ranked or casual. Seriously, there is no cost or loss in doing ranked, so why have a casual queue at all to split people up?
    Let’s be honest: ranked modes almost always bring out the worst in people.
    This isn't new—it’s been like this since the days of Feast.
    The moment a player loses a ranked match, their first instinct is to blame their teammates.
    It doesn’t matter if they made mistakes themselves—someone else must’ve thrown.
    This mindset is toxic, and it's exactly why PvP chat is disabled.
    SE already witnessed what happens when egos mix with ranking systems

    Also,not everyone plays to climb.
    Some players just want to enjoy the game casually and have a good time without being flamed or blamed.
    There are more people playing Casual CC than Ranked CC right now.
    That should say something.
    Ranked turns PvP into ego battlegrounds.
    It encourages blame, salt, and gatekeeping.
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