Current fixes to Forked Tower is not good enough

[Netaie]

So, what is the point in OC, for the casual player base? There is no accessible raid to use your phantom jobs in. You can't level up your normal jobs. Sure, it should be easier to get the demiatma in OC but, after that, there is no incentive to get any further relics from doing OC content. The rewards, apart from the Twirl emote, are far too easily obtainable. So, even if you were going for those, you will be done in a relatively short amount of time. Gold farming, if you want that glam, is devolved to going on WAR and spamming cannon shots. Last time i did that, 5min in and I was falling asleep.

Back to pvp, I guess...

As a non advanced-raid player, I think I spent more time in Cosmic Exploration than in OC. And yet, I am not into FFXIV craft jobs. I liked Bozja and spent a lot of time in it but for OC, I just went to the max level and really never came back since then. At least people are back for PVP

[Daralii]

Like for people who haven’t done forked do you even know what dead stars looks like because they do not match their name

If you called them "the Great Sea Trench bosses from V", you'd at least have a chance of someone guessing what they looked like.

[LaylaTsarra]

As a non advanced-raid player, I think I spent more time in Field operations than in OC. And yet, I am not into FFXIV craft jobs. I liked Bozja and spent a lot of time in it but for OC, I just went to the max level and really never came back since then. At least people are back for PVP

I had a level 8 Bozja Hali alt that I decided to reactivate for relic and leveled her to 10 for Castrum. Castrum was a blast and I then went on to unlock Delibrium and likewise it was a awesome. Did that with a party finder of 5 people and unlocked Zandor. She is now 15 and I'll be working on Field Notes (real ones) which obviously is quite a time sink.

Refreshing to have multiple fates up with no feeling to have to rush to them and they are good enough to level my character apart from CE's which I will do selectively now based on what they might drop for sure in Southern Front and Zandor. CE's in my view are more fun and not just aoe spam fests whcih seems to be the new meta for them and dungeon bosses as well.

Essences are so much more fun as well given I don't really care much for the sub roles they are asking us to level in CS. Farming essences it also fun given I love to use reflect and spend time there doing that.

I don't know if I'll go back to Crescent any time soon. Demiatma are not worth the effort to me to take other alts through that process. Just too frustrating. I'll wait for the next patch for relic to see what is needed and how that might (hopefully) make the zone more fun. This relic is in my opinion quite a downgrade in fun from either of the previous ones.

FT maybe one day but not interested atm. I'll go with a discord like I did with BA and DRS. The 3 death rule seems pretty intimidating for me given what I've seen from those streaming the content.

[TaleraRistain]

I actually thought about running FT now that I have some max level phantom jobs... But like somebody else said, even Aether is with no ample Party Finder action, instead just a couple of groups referring to a Discord server for an application to join.

I've been keeping an eye out this weekend and even those have stopped appearing. All I'm seeing on that tab now on Aether are one or two random DRN runs.

[Khryseis_Astra]

To be fair the notes are really only relevant to what’s inside forked anyway

Maybe so, but I assume North Horn will have its own notes, and there might be an achievement or mount for collecting them all. And I’m just a lore collector in general.

Like for people who haven’t done forked do you even know what dead stars looks like because they do not match their name

Anyone even considering running the Tower is already spoiled on that by watching all the guides! lol

At this point, if they don’t make a Normal mode, make an Exploratory mode for people to be able to get the notes. Show ghostly visions of the monsters as you walk through. I’m kinda joking with that… I would obviously prefer a Normal mode that I could grind for the notes that are random drop and go through to get the ones that are survey points. But I want the “spicy but doable” level of difficulty we had in Bozja’s dungeons.

With the rez limit and wipe restrictions, and the sheer amount of places said wipes can happen, I’m pretty much waiting til groups start offering carry runs. If it weren’t for that, if the wipes didn’t mean game over and I could get more than three rezzes, I’d definitely try to practice and learn it. I did Chaotic after all, in PF no less! But I still go over my 3 rez limit in some of the CEs (Urn especially!), so I don’t think I could go through a whole dungeon on just three lives, let alone avoid the 20-some places I could wipe the whole thing.

[0blivion]

If it cheers you up, I still die on urn and I cleared FT like, weeks ago. Carry runs will be difficult to do unless someone stays with you after you die and then raises you after everything is dead. Which would kind of be... bad. And you can't get carried through fucking up Magitaur AoEs.

[Aravell]

If it cheers you up, I still die on urn and I cleared FT like, weeks ago. Carry runs will be difficult to do unless someone stays with you after you die and then raises you after everything is dead. Which would kind of be... bad. And you can't get carried through fucking up Magitaur AoEs.

It is actually very possible and easy to carry someone through FT. All the person has to do is do boss 1 with no deaths, then wall themselves at the start of boss 2, 3 and 4, none of the fights last more than 10 minutes, so it's easy to just raise them afterwards. Hallways, bridges and lockwards is just a matter of sticking close to your healer (or just being afk at spawn for lockwards since it doesn't even require everyone to be there).

[0blivion]

I mean, the type of person who can't do FT themselves would probably die on boss 1, hallways, bridges and final hallway, ngl. But yeah it's fine with a halfway competent player, but said player would just... do FT themselves lmao

[Supersnow845]

To be fair boss 1, hallways, bridges and lockwards together have literally a single personal responsibility mechanic between them (if you aren’t running an essential job)-> meteors and meteors give you an entire year to resolve and they can be survived if messed up anyway

Everything else can be called out as straight up “don’t touch this” or “don’t stand here still the geo does their thing” which is different from “if you have the snowball tether you must resolve it correctly”