Current fixes to Forked Tower is not good enough

[Netaie]

So, what is the point in OC, for the casual player base? There is no accessible raid to use your phantom jobs in. You can't level up your normal jobs. Sure, it should be easier to get the demiatma in OC but, after that, there is no incentive to get any further relics from doing OC content. The rewards, apart from the Twirl emote, are far too easily obtainable. So, even if you were going for those, you will be done in a relatively short amount of time. Gold farming, if you want that glam, is devolved to going on WAR and spamming cannon shots. Last time i did that, 5min in and I was falling asleep.

Back to pvp, I guess...

As a non advanced-raid player, I think I spent more time in Cosmic Exploration than in OC. And yet, I am not into FFXIV craft jobs. I liked Bozja and spent a lot of time in it but for OC, I just went to the max level and really never came back since then. At least people are back for PVP

[LaylaTsarra]

As a non advanced-raid player, I think I spent more time in Field operations than in OC. And yet, I am not into FFXIV craft jobs. I liked Bozja and spent a lot of time in it but for OC, I just went to the max level and really never came back since then. At least people are back for PVP

I had a level 8 Bozja Hali alt that I decided to reactivate for relic and leveled her to 10 for Castrum. Castrum was a blast and I then went on to unlock Delibrium and likewise it was a awesome. Did that with a party finder of 5 people and unlocked Zandor. She is now 15 and I'll be working on Field Notes (real ones) which obviously is quite a time sink.

Refreshing to have multiple fates up with no feeling to have to rush to them and they are good enough to level my character apart from CE's which I will do selectively now based on what they might drop for sure in Southern Front and Zandor. CE's in my view are more fun and not just aoe spam fests whcih seems to be the new meta for them and dungeon bosses as well.

Essences are so much more fun as well given I don't really care much for the sub roles they are asking us to level in CS. Farming essences it also fun given I love to use reflect and spend time there doing that.

I don't know if I'll go back to Crescent any time soon. Demiatma are not worth the effort to me to take other alts through that process. Just too frustrating. I'll wait for the next patch for relic to see what is needed and how that might (hopefully) make the zone more fun. This relic is in my opinion quite a downgrade in fun from either of the previous ones.

FT maybe one day but not interested atm. I'll go with a discord like I did with BA and DRS. The 3 death rule seems pretty intimidating for me given what I've seen from those streaming the content.

[Supersnow845]

I can see JP maybe feeling their way up to dead stars but how the hell did they think dead stars could be blind pugged by 48 players with a rezz restriction

Like snowballs and fire towers are just absolutely awful from the perspective of being mechanics you could blind feel out a 48 man strategy

Like at least DRS was basically all just personal responsibility

[Khryseis_Astra]

So, what is the point in OC, for the casual player base? There is no accessible raid to use your phantom jobs in. You can\\'t level up your normal jobs. Sure, it should be easier to get the demiatma in OC but, after that, there is no incentive to get any further relics from doing OC content. The rewards, apart from the Twirl emote, are far too easily obtainable. So, even if you were going for those, you will be done in a relatively short amount of time. Gold farming, if you want that glam, is devolved to going on WAR and spamming cannon shots. Last time i did that, 5min in and I was falling asleep.

Exactly my thoughts… it’s like a mish-mash of some things from each of the previous field ops, but without the things that made them work. The cipher thing would’ve been a nice touch for a Normal/Story mode. But it’s like someone just went, “well it was fine for BA,” and called it a day. Never mind the fact that BA, while still needing organization to be run, has a lot less fail points than FT. They also brought back field notes from Bozja, but locked the last five in a higher-difficulty mode, which didn’t happen with DRS. Bozja’s Triad cards were purchasable in the cluster shop, not locked behind DRS, like the one for FT is. BA really didn’t lock anything away besides a mount and some higher stat gear. You could still feel like you completed Eureka and BA was just more challenging bonus content. Same with Bozja and DRS.

But this field op is only getting two zones, each with their own tower. It’s still not clear to me whether the second zone will get a Normal mode; the wording to me still seems ambiguous. If it does, OC as a whole ends up being lopsided; if it doesn’t, there ends up being no Normal mode dungeon at all for more casual players. It really feels like there was meant to be both, but they ran out of resources, and since they do the harder versions of everything first, the Normal mode was cut without thinking about all the implications of that.

As you say, once you get all the rewards, level all your phantom jobs and zone gear, and finish your first relic, then what? The support fate, assuming anyone bothers to do the puzzle that spawns it anymore, only gives 2 sanguinite anyways. Is the next zone going to start off with a fresh set of gear? Or will it require the +2 to get further upgrades, putting anyone who didn’t run the Tower at a disadvantage going into the next zone. And that’s assuming even one run of the Tower would give you enough sanguinite for a full set… it’s 60 per piece of gear, idk how much the Tower gives. If they attach relic steps to Tower completion, that kills off the relic for anyone who doesn’t complete it.

[Chasingstars]

The way the story even presents forked tower blood, Ketenramm is like "I am not bothering with that, but you can go poke around in there if you want, meanwhile I am going to figure out how to get to north horn."

[Mawlzy]

The way the story even presents forked tower blood, Ketenramm is like "I am not bothering with that, but you can go poke around in there if you want, meanwhile I am going to figure out how to get to north horn."

It's pretty bad when even the NPCs are not interested in the content.

[Aravell]

The way the story even presents forked tower blood, Ketenramm is like "I am not bothering with that, but you can go poke around in there if you want, meanwhile I am going to figure out how to get to north horn."

I think that line is to inform the player that there is no story locked behind FT and clearing it is an optional thing to do.

Which makes it kind of weird that they decided to lock 5 field notes behind it, which in a way does lock lore behind it.

[Supersnow845]

I think that line is to inform the player that there is no story locked behind FT and clearing it is an optional thing to do.

Which makes it kind of weird that they decided to lock 5 field notes behind it, which in a way does lock lore behind it.

To be fair the notes are really only relevant to what’s inside forked anyway

Like about the most interesting thing that’s technically relevant to the wider zone is dead stars controls the weather

But otherwise it’s “here let’s describe a boss that if you haven’t done forked you won’t even know what it is in a bit more detail”

Like for people who haven’t done forked do you even know what dead stars looks like because they do not match their name

[Daralii]

Like for people who haven’t done forked do you even know what dead stars looks like because they do not match their name

If you called them "the Great Sea Trench bosses from V", you'd at least have a chance of someone guessing what they looked like.

[Raim]

Just add a queue.