Time to kill off FF14 and start a new FF MMO

[Merrigan]

I mean even if this is the case, then it would be a producer decision which wouldnt do any sense, i played WoW with a ControllerAddon and it worked fine, you can have the same Inputs or APM with a controller then a keyboard user has, thats why i dont even know where the mindset comes from that controller are slower then keyboards

Yes, no, but... The problem isn't that, once again, it may or may not be possible to overcome the inherent difficulties of a medium: it's that the game is modified in anticipation of the limitations of the medium in question.

If we're completely honest, defending “pc-only” is a bit hypocritical. It's perfectly obvious, for example, that the contribution of console gamers has contributed to the success of the game - and it would be strange to complain about it. But the fact is, it still leads to videogame decisions which, in my opinion, don't contribute to making a “perfect” game.

Emphasis on “in my opinion”.

[Tsukino]

Even though XI and XIV have been their cash cows, I don't know that they'll ever make another MMO, at least not in the numbered FF series.

When XIV came out, MMOs were still the big genre to copy to try and get a money printer just like WoW, but "live service" and especially gacha games have taken the foundations of MMOs and built them to be much more addictive and FOMO inducing. MMOs that have been around for a long time, mostly just FFXIV and WoW, still have a lot of players and make money, but everything new since hasn't done so well. The Final Fantasy name is still a pretty big deal, but I just don't know if SE will make the investment a third time the way the whole market is in decline.

[Hallarem]

Even though XI and XIV have been their cash cows, I don't know that they'll ever make another MMO, at least not in the numbered FF series.

When XIV came out, MMOs were still the big genre to copy to try and get a money printer just like WoW, but "live service" and especially gacha games have taken the foundations of MMOs and built them to be much more addictive and FOMO inducing. MMOs that have been around for a long time, mostly just FFXIV and WoW, still have a lot of players and make money, but everything new since hasn't done so well. The Final Fantasy name is still a pretty big deal, but I just don't know if SE will make the investment a third time the way the whole market is in decline.

Riot MMO is the glimmering hope for most. But thats like 5 years or more in the pipeline.

[Themarvin]

Remove all ilevel stuff, make gear craftable only, revamp the housing system to what Star Wars Galaxies was, make the crafting system alike Star Wars Galaxies....

Skill based system.

You never would need to worry about getting new gear, at a decay system to gear, so you would eventually needs to buy new gear, because it breaks.

Keep the current glamour system, and make content available to all, no more savage/ultimate or 1% population stuff ever again but make the system challenging and wanting to make things work, make it impossible to parse, add AI to bosses, so you can't watch a video to beat it as would be unique every time giving it a go.

[Altina_Orion]

I feel like this is a shitpost. It's not that i disagree with most of this, but a few of these points are very shitpost-y. Also, These are all changes small enough to fit into an expansion and definitely wouldn't require a new game.

Also, free to play MMOs always end up being pay-to-win and more expensive (unless you want to be shit forever) than pay-to-pay ones, so free to play is a MASSIVE red flag and a no from me.

[Kaurhz]

No.

Because realistically a lot of the modern games that are done by Square Enix all suffer from the exact same problems that FFXIV does.

[Nadda]

Dude.

I feel bad for Yoshi-P every time I see posts like this.
I don't know why I can be critical of the game and not be weird about it.

[Akira]

A new MMO wont happen unless this one shuts down and I doubt it will with 11 still going.

Hot take. Pc Only

unfortunately with how much games cost to develop anymore, just having it on PC won't earn them enough revenue to justify the cost to develop the said MMO.

[Bad_Luck]

Well go on then. Show us your new FF.

[Rinoa_353]

Biggest Bullshit i heard here in the Thread, sorry but are you actually knowing what you are talking about?

1. Both Versions have different UIs, nothing literally NOTHING which has to work for "Controller" has a impact on the PC Version, so trying to blame Consoleplayer for it seems like a take from someone really really dumb

2. When someone the Games holds back its clearly not Consoleplayers, dude do you see which astonishing graphic some Consolegames have and still run with good FPS? I guarantee you when someone is holding the Game back then its PC Gamer with the old ass hardware or do you believe that every PC FFXIV Gamer has a High END PC? I guarantee you most of them not.

The only console holding the game back is the PS4, it's almost 12 years old and the majority of them have slow HDD too. I hope they stop supporting the PS4 in 8.0 as it would be 13 years old by then. But as far as the whole console debate, the UI works quite well as I play on PC but on an XBOX Elite Series 1 controller with official MS chatpad since I started playing in 2015. The PS5/XBOX Series will last till the end of the decade since they have SSD's standard and such. It's old hardware that's over a decade old that is holding back the game imo.