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    Quote Originally Posted by YovelaLindswood View Post
    In wow I know months in advance whats going to come out and they even have public test realms so anyone can try the new content ahead of time and give feedback. We've also had just about every major concern from season 1 of this xpac addressed and corrected leading into a successful and well received season two. The newest story was dissatisfying in the ptr build and to my surprise they actually rewrote the story critiques by the community and its actually pretty good now. I wish square enix had even a tenth of that transparency.
    I don't know how much has changed since WoW's Cataclysm, but for the many years I played WoW the developers did indeed communicate, but that communication usually came in the form condescending developers who clearly thought players were idiots. Also, the developers would claim that the next update made the classes perfect and that the current balance had to be thrown out because it was garbage.. a claim which they would repeat prior to every expansion.

    But, yes, there was technically communication.

    FFXIV communication could certainly be better, but I wouldn't want it to be like the communication I remember coming from Blizzard. At least you make it sound like it's improved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    I don't know how much has changed since WoW's Cataclysm, but for the many years I played WoW the developers did indeed communicate, but that communication usually came in the form condescending developers who clearly thought players were idiots. Also, the developers would claim that the next update made the classes perfect and that the current balance had to be thrown out because it was garbage.. a claim which they would repeat prior to every expansion.

    But, yes, there was technically communication.

    FFXIV communication could certainly be better, but I wouldn't want it to be like the communication I remember coming from Blizzard. At least you make it sound like it's improved.
    Its hard to know what to expect, but any communication can be better than radio silence which is what we get here. Like, If a dev came onto my seasonal event post and was like "You're an idiot and your opinion is shit kekw" at least I'd know they read it and the direction it was going to go as hurtful as that would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
    Its hard to know what to expect, but any communication can be better than radio silence which is what we get here. Like, If a dev came onto my seasonal event post and was like "You're an idiot and your opinion is shit kekw" at least I'd know they read it and the direction it was going to go as hurtful as that would be.
    Again, it's not even the radio silence that bothers me - its the fact that when we DO get 'answers' (most recent Live Letter Q&A for example) they're generic non-replies - the sort of rubbish you expect from your average Politian who doesn't wish to be held accountable/take responsibility for anything and doesn't want anything they say used against them at a later date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Again, it's not even the radio silence that bothers me - its the fact that when we DO get 'answers' (most recent Live Letter Q&A for example) they're generic non-replies - the sort of rubbish you expect from your average Politian who doesn't wish to be held accountable/take responsibility for anything and doesn't want anything they say used against them at a later date.
    To me its both. The community can rage for 6 months before we hear anything about it and then when when we do we get "We hear you..Something generic.. look forward to it"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    I don't know how much has changed since WoW's Cataclysm, but for the many years I played WoW the developers did indeed communicate, but that communication usually came in the form condescending developers who clearly thought players were idiots. Also, the developers would claim that the next update made the classes perfect and that the current balance had to be thrown out because it was garbage.. a claim which they would repeat prior to every expansion.
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    To be fair to the wow developers (and to think I am defending them here), their communication style has changed in the last few years ( in response to how they blew up shadowlands, but hey they atleast learned something from it)

    They tend to be good at talking to each type of player.
    They don't make claims that the "class changes are going to be perfect" anymore, instead they make a few changes, state why they did it ( player feed back), add changes to ptr, and respond to the feedback on the ptr.
    They don't claim the balance is perfect, and work every couple of weeks to update balance ( the player base is still going to meta the crap out of the game, but they are more responsive to the "community" meta by updating biweekly instead of waiting 4 months to say " maybe we should nerf the broken class")
    And they give a current state of dev like every 2-3 weeks ( it does slow down on the second half of the patch, then the next patch trailer drops and its every 3 days)
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