Lack of Gear progression

[Miguel85NYC]

We all know the lack of gear progression in the game. I kinda came up with a solution, temporary tho.

AF gear. Instead of them handing it out. Add some world events where you can take a part of to obtain the gear and after obtaining the set you want you'll be able to upgrade the set to AF 2, 3. The initial set will be all greens then AF 2 all blues and AF 3 will be Epic. What yall think?

[Altina_Orion]

Are you suggesting relic gear? The issue is that it would piss off raiders. I'm not totally against this, but on raid patch, it shouldnt be even as good as crafted gear because it will make the tier too easy for some. It could be updated later to be better, but still shouldn't surpass savage gear until the next patch. What you are suggesting is a casual but grindy approach to gear, so it wouldnt be for raiders. And before anyone goes off on the "catering to raiders" shtick, casual content in this game doesn't need gear. There would have to be a fundamental rework to the type of content that exists in this game for it to even matter. The closet thing currently is OC gear which is better than crafted, worse than tome, but gives an advantage in OC and takes a considerable grind.

The other issue though is that I don't know who it is for... the same type of people who like grinding relics perhaps? I think its a no from me because I'm just not sure this will fulfill any real niche in the game.

[AvoSturmfaust]

Are you suggesting relic gear? The issue is that it would piss off raiders. I'm not totally against this, but on raid patch, it shouldnt be even as good as crafted gear because it will make the tier too easy for some. It could be updated later to be better, but still shouldn't surpass savage gear until the next patch. What you are suggesting is a casual but grindy approach to gear, so it wouldnt be for raiders. And before anyone goes off on the "catering to raiders" shtick, casual content in this game doesn't need gear. There would have to be a fundamental rework to the type of content that exists in this game for it to even matter. The closet thing currently is OC gear which is better than crafted, worse than tome, but gives an advantage in OC and takes a considerable grind.

The other issue though is that I don't know who it is for... the same type of people who like grinding relics perhaps? I think its a no from me because I'm just not sure this will fulfill any real niche in the game.

Yet again the "It would piss raider off" thing, as i raider, no it wouldnt piss us off, most of us dont even do the raid content because of the "gear" we do it because of the challenge, if its on the same level as crafted gear and increases to the same ilvl like savage, it would be completly fine because after all BiS is always a mix between Tomestones/Savage and with the last Tier even Chaotic, so even if you add another layer of it, to get absolutly max dps and BiS you would anyway probably need savage gear

so its completly fine and actually i would like it, it would make the open world a bit meaningful

[Altina_Orion]

Yet again the "It would piss raider off" thing, as i raider, no it wouldnt piss us off, most of us dont even do the raid content because of the "gear" we do it because of the challenge, if its on the same level as crafted gear and increases to the same ilvl like savage, it would be completly fine because after all BiS is always a mix between Tomestones/Savage and with the last Tier even Chaotic, so even if you add another layer of it, to get absolutly max dps and BiS you would anyway probably need savage gear

so its completly fine and actually i would like it, it would make the open world a bit meaningful

Thats the point rofl. Day one, its supposed to be hard because you don't have the gear. After a few weeks or months, this no longer matters.

[Alahard]

Are you suggesting relic gear? The issue is that it would piss off raiders. I'm not totally against this, but on raid patch, it shouldnt be even as good as crafted gear because it will make the tier too easy for some. It could be updated later to be better, but still shouldn't surpass savage gear until the next patch. What you are suggesting is a casual but grindy approach to gear, so it wouldnt be for raiders. And before anyone goes off on the "catering to raiders" shtick, casual content in this game doesn't need gear. There would have to be a fundamental rework to the type of content that exists in this game for it to even matter. The closet thing currently is OC gear which is better than crafted, worse than tome, but gives an advantage in OC and takes a considerable grind.

The other issue though is that I don't know who it is for... the same type of people who like grinding relics perhaps? I think its a no from me because I'm just not sure this will fulfill any real niche in the game.

It wouldn't piss us off, especially if it takes a bit of time to kick it off.

If anything I welcome it, it gives me something to do outside of waiting around in pf.

Bonus I can actually raid on more jobs when needed on my one toon whenever someone in the static is missing.

Also I don't really care that the il is "savage level". If it really concerns the devs, make it tome level on the patch savage comes out and make it upgradable on the off patches. Not going to care at all.

[Jeeqbit]

So you're suggesting an Occult Crescent-like world area where you grind something to get AF gear with a currency like Silver Pieces and then augment it through that content? (of course, this is actually in Occult Crescent)

In the open world, you can fight hunts such as A ranks and S ranks, which gives you tomestones to exchange for gear (as well as another tomestone than gets you materials for crafted gear). They drop materia to improve its stats. Then in the odd-numbered patches you can get augments with the currency they drop. Essentially you can do all your gear progression through hunting if you want.

[Miguel85NYC]

So you're suggesting an Occult Crescent-like world area where you grind something to get AF gear with a currency like Silver Pieces and then augment it through that content? (of course, this is actually in Occult Crescent)

In the open world, you can fight hunts such as A ranks and S ranks, which gives you tomestones to exchange for gear (as well as another tomestone than gets you materials for crafted gear). They drop materia to improve its stats. Then in the odd-numbered patches you can get augments with the currency they drop. Essentially you can do all your gear progression through hunting if you want.

I don't think you understand... this game lack gear progression.. we want different ways to get gear not just tome gear

[Aruji-sama]

I think OP meant for gear to have variable ilvl where more effort = higher ilvl and stats. So technically something like Eureka gear + relics. I wouldn't mind those but tbh, I think the main problem is that this game doesn't make gear valuable outside current tier, where everything goes to the trash except for glam whenever new tier is out. Last tier savage gear can only withstand at most +4 levels of new expax before it's obsolete

[YovelaLindswood]

This game has needed alternate ways to generate gear for a long time. Its crazy how limited the gearing is in general in this game.

[Nero-Voidstails]

honestly I don't think they should give stronger gear then X.0 does the reason why it's often because they always balance later content at those ilvl. so what I think should happen is the gear should give more stats instead or have a Bonus stats added