Thread: Please Share Updates on 8.0 Job Design

Originally Posted by Emitans

God, I hate the new MNK animations so much. You leap into the air and start swiping your arms. What is so great about that? Bootshine was rapid punches with both hands, it made sense, and felt good.

Leaping Opo? Yeah, that's the worst of the three. Played on slowdown, our characters are performing 3 instances of scratching, two downward, followed by another to the opposite direction. Ignoring the odd animation choice, there's also the fact that the VFX used as a 'carry' to the aesthetic here doesn't deliver it (to me) either. They don't necessarily line up with the actual scratch - it feels like they're just floating in front of the character irrespective to what they're actually doing.

Originally Posted by Kozh

... am I the only one who don't like VPR reawaken combo? >_>
I appreciate they try the very anime "gotta go fast" moveset, but idk doesn't really feel impactful to me (except for the last hit)

To me they're messy, and another instance of heavily relying on VFXes. Taking an example of their first AoE move in their 1-2: Steel Maws. The animation shows the character doing 3 sword swinging. But the VFX used laid on top of them are showing 9-12(????) slashes and none of them necessarily lines up with the angle.

Originally Posted by Altina_Orion

Wow, people really don't care about how the game plays, but how it looks. Incredible.

Speaking about healers specifically, you're about 5-7 years late to say that at this point. The gameplay has been an endless talking point with its fair share of "shut up nobody cares about healers but also pls nerf <insert job> because MY job is in the rut..!!" or "Lol clear high end ur opinion don't matter/think of the cashools!!!"-kind of responses.

That being said, visuals can be an important bullet point for players, too. That's part of the reason for good amount of SCH players took an issue when it's revealed they're giving SCH Seraphism, not just because how it functions to forgo what makes a SCH SCH, it's also severely clashing with the job fantasy of being a genius military strategist being made to wear chastity robe of all... for what? Only Creatively Bankrup Unit 3 knows the real answer.

Originally Posted by Daralii

It feels like they frequently just blend WHM and SCH together when designing and naming things. Remember when Liturgy of the Bell was named Lilybell because they forgot that it was the actual name of the WoL's faerie?

Even in the beginning, I'd argue that the name "Sacred Soil" sounds more in line with the Conjurer identity than Scholar. Then when White Mage got its gauge, they went with lilies as opposed to literally any other flower despite the fearie's name being "Lily." PVP White Mage has Seraphic Strike despite Scholar having had access to Seraph since the LB3 update in Heavensward. We have the Liturgy example you mentioned. I'm not sure if I'd say the priestly elements of Seraphism are innately White Mage. Final Fantasy's token healer has rarely taken on the more religious context that D&D's Priest or other generic healer classes often do, and XIV especially focused more on a nature theme, but it's certainly not a match for the combat medic or city of nym themes that were previously established. Personally, I feel like it's something out of Bloodborne more than anything Final Fantasy.