Thread: Please Share Updates on 8.0 Job Design

... am I the only one who don't like VPR reawaken combo? >_>
I appreciate they try the very anime "gotta go fast" moveset, but idk doesn't really feel impactful to me (except for the last hit)

Share? Easy : New animations, new VFX, new SFX and some long overdue QoL.... And, also expect some old Jobs getting the DRG/BLM/MNK treatment.
Don't thank me, it's free ^^

Wow, people really don't care about how the game plays, but how it looks. Incredible.

Originally Posted by Altina_Orion

Wow, people really don't care about how the game plays, but how it looks. Incredible.

We've talked about how the game plays for several years already, usually to the chorus of 'omg shut up if you don't like it play something else' or something to that effect

But when it comes to 'Job Identity', visual and audio design are an integral part of that just as much as the function and rotational place of the action, hence it's being brought up

I can't speak for everyone, but I absolutely do care about how the Jobs play. Why else would I have written this, if not because 'I want the Healers to play more uniquely from one another'

Originally Posted by Altina_Orion

Wow, people really don't care about how the game plays, but how it looks. Incredible.

Chill, we're just being out of topic.

Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe

I do worry that 7.3 will be a massive downturn in player count, even compared to what we've seen thus far. These simplified Job designs are meant to allow for the encounters to be 'the source of the complexity', but said complexity source (Savage/Ultimate) won't be in next patch. It'll just be the usual, 24man and an EX trial, unless they give us another Forked Tower (which would be a bit odd to pull out so soon after the previous one IMO). So we'll be going another 4 months before getting content that the Job kits are actually designed around, which might be too long for a lot more players

I understand more than most that pivoting direction in game design is no easy feat, but one of the most exhausting bad habits of XIV is the utter lack of urgency in virtually everything except for the 6.3 Paladin rework for some reason. Everything takes eons to change like the shaping of the planet. Why do we need to wait another year and a half for even modest gameplay improvements? I’m not asking for Pangea II, I’m asking for some shorter cooldowns on attack spells to make Dawntrail bearable enough for me to enjoy it before 8.0.

Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

That being said, visuals can be an important bullet point for players, too. That's part of the reason for good amount of SCH players took an issue when it's revealed they're giving SCH Seraphism, not just because how it functions to forgo what makes a SCH SCH, it's also severely clashing with the job fantasy of being a genius military strategist being made to wear chastity robe of all... for what? Only Creatively Bankrup Unit 3 knows the real answer.

I don’t know if you remember this or not, but I imagine most viewers won’t recognize this. But during the job actions reveal for Heavensward when Summoner got Dreadwyrm Trance, they talked about the future of Summoner being to gain the power to transform into Bahamut, which was met with a lot of “where’s Ramuh/Leviathan/Shiva?” And “remember when Summoners actually summoned things in FFXI?” And then two years later during the Stormblood job actions reveal, where Demi-Bahamut was introduced and players cheered, they commented on how they received feedback that summoner players did not want to become Bahamut; they just wanted to summon him.

You know as I started writing this, my point was to go “what happened to those devs?” But then I recalled that Stormblood was also where they responded to White Mage players asking for buffs to compete with Astro, and said that would ruin the job fantasy of White Mage. So I guess cherry picking has always been a hobby of theirs, and healers are just never on the VIP list.

Originally Posted by ty_taurus

I don’t know if you remember this or not, but I imagine most viewers won’t recognize this. But during the job actions reveal for Heavensward when Summoner got Dreadwyrm Trance, they talked about the future of Summoner being to gain the power to transform into Bahamut, which was met with a lot of “where’s Ramuh/Leviathan/Shiva?” And “remember when Summoners actually summoned things in FFXI?” And then two years later during the Stormblood job actions reveal, where Demi-Bahamut was introduced and players cheered, they commented on how they received feedback that summoner players did not want to become Bahamut; they just wanted to summon him.

You know as I started writing this, my point was to go “what happened to those devs?” But then I recalled that Stormblood was also where they responded to White Mage players asking for buffs to compete with Astro, and said that would ruin the job fantasy of White Mage. So I guess cherry picking has always been a hobby of theirs, and healers are just never on the VIP list.

The devs don't even cherry-pick anymore, they just completely ignore.