Forked Tower: Blood Needs A Normal Mode

[Themarvin]

And hard mode ( the current mode of it ) should not give any additional benefits other than perhaps the possibility for an additional mount or something, there is being done to little for the general population of this game as it is.

[Yodada]

Yoshida said in the LL that the other Forked Tower will have normal and savage, but that's almost a full year away and they could decide that normal isn't worth the COST.

The lier didnt say it will. He only said they are considering it. So tbh here. There wont be an normal mode. He just said it there might be one with PR speech to downplay the problem.

[BristolRuss]

(agreed with OP, cancel ultimate completely. Cancel the next savage tear. Do what you have to to make it happen without losing more casual content. But make it happen.
Yes people will be pissed. But it's bad enough that that might be the only option. Or stop housing demolition so people can unsub while you pause everything else and get caught up. Then resume other content when FT norman drops.
Redo Cloud while your at it to get rid of the body checks. Incentivise raid/duty finder for prog.
The fact you won't is an indication of just how much you don't get it, and the fact that people don't seriously expect you to in 1,000,000 years indicates how rock bottom their expectations are.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MiP1MJC7EU

[Espon]

While they won't do it, they could do something like this:

The Hard version is queued up for outside of the instance.
Normal version queuing is as how it currently works except a minimum number of ciphers are no longer required. Giving a cipher guarantees you'll be given a spot, otherwise it just takes up to 48 random people standing on the platform.

Hard version has no changes inside the dungeon.
Normal mode no longer has a resurrection limit and respawning after a wipe will just put you back at the beginning of the Forked Tower where a teleporter will take you back to before or after the last boss you were at, allowing you to keep trying until the time limit expires. Experience isn't lost inside the dungeon.

I kinda like having the dungeon more difficult than your typical alliance raid, although some mechanics could be nerfed or changed so that a single player doesn't cause a wipe.

I dunno what the reward structure would be since one already exists. I guess less sanguinite and no achievement mount. Perhaps add something extra to hard mode.

[Gurgeh]

I think I must have struck a nerve, cuz your post is very vitriolic.
....

Well then fricking say 'that'.

You think?! No shit! Yeah it did strike a nerve. I was really hoping you were going to be cool. Explain that the whole business of FT was way better then everyone thought. I was hoping you were going to provide me a perspective I was missing. I was hoping you were going to be a cool high end player.

Then when I suggested content should be cancelled (demolition paused) until they could catch up with casual cause 'you' just glibly called casuals toxic. Meanwhile we've been putting up with having our shit 'actually' cancelled 'for good'. No reprieve.

We've been called liars.
We've been called snipers.
Then when we hyperbolize (and you 'do' know it's mere hyperbole to call for ultimate to be cancelled, it's never going to happen) We get called toxic, When our content 'has' been cancelled. No mere 'hyoerbole'.
Its like some kind of distilled hypocrisy.

It's like this , after what SE have done to CB3, and what CB3 have done to us casuals, no-one has a leg to stand on if we 'do' get toxic about it.
We are the only ones with godamn right, frankly, to be toxic.

We have been goaded, and provoked, by both CB3, Yoshi himself with "play other games", the savage community, and many of the content creators with their lack of leadership and often outright goading of their own viewers "socialize, juuuust a little", setting just the worst example. Which is fine and no big deal when everything is fine. It's just dude on YouTube. But everything was not fine. It's about tact, tone, and sensitivity, and your an influencer. Instead it's just totally un-self-aware cluelessness.

I'm aware of what a D I am much of the time. But frankly I'm just a nobody player. Not an influencer.

Don't miss understand me though. You personally aren't who I'm thinking of though when that nerce is being touched., and i t's not quite anger. It's not really a tantrum (that's imagery). It's it's deep profound disgust that goes past caring.

Everyone else needs to just be quiet, humble, and tread on eggshells, until SE starts to demonstrate they are going to put this right and start supporting CB3.
That said CB3 aren't going get my respect until they start washing the SE dirty laundry in public. Who is to blame? Ether your loyal to us or your loyal to SE. Which is it CB3? Because we're the ones who've been wronged while at the same time having no power of our own.

As high a end player frankly if you think we should be keeping out of apparently your FT game, then you really ought to just stay out of these/'our' threads and mind your own business.
When SE finally cancels your ultimate, 'then' you can have a say. Which is not ever going to happen.. So just don't worry about it while we blow off steam, and make our feelings perfectly clear.

The live letter was great but they still haven't explained their original thinking for who was going to play FT and how? That was a mistake.

They cancelled content we have now been waiting for for not 1 but 2 whole fricking expansions.

We're going to have our tantrum, and the rest are going to be quiet, because you haven't got a leg to stand on.

I was hoping you'd be cool, reveal some good news decrease truth about FT being misrepresented, then you let me down by instead getting personal. With a glib insult.
We're staying out of FT, now please stay out of our threads.

(As for homogenising of jobs. The next time you hear a content creator winning about how Pictc is unbalanced and ultimate too easy, and weird party compositions, then tell them to just be quiet for once. If it's too easy with a pict, then just don't play with a pict. F me. Your advanced players. Even casuals can manage to find ways sometimes to make content artificiality challenging if needed.)

[Altina_Orion]

(agreed with OP, cancel ultimate completely. Cancel the next savage tear. Do what you have to to make it happen without losing more casual content. But make it happen.
Yes people will be pissed. But it's bad enough that that might be the only option. Or stop housing demolition so people can unsub while you pause everything else and get caught up. Then resume other content when FT norman drops.
Redo Cloud while your at it to get rid of the body checks. Incentivise raid/duty finder for prog.
The fact you won't is an indication of just how much you don't get it, and the fact that people don't seriously expect you to in 1,000,000 years indicates how rock bottom their expectations are.)

SE has the money and resources to do it, its doesn't have to come at the expense at content thousands of players enjoy.

[ChrysOCE]

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You really need to take a break from the forums...

[Supersnow845]

One idea I had that (for me at least) would massively improve the flow of OC even if it didn’t give us forked normal is to better use the support fate

Already the support fate doesn’t function like BA where it’s actually needed for completion, it’s just kinda a way to spawn pity sanguinite for everyone

So take the current support fate and slightly retool it. Instead make it the cap fate for the zone. It can only be spawned if every other fate in the zone has at day been spawned and defeating it rewards 10 sanguinite

So that way it encourages progressing the zone by seeking out CE’s that haven’t spawned yet and gives people a way to get +2 that’s actually on a realistic time schedule that doesn’t need forked tower (as chasing the current support fate for sanguinite will take you years to get gear)

At least that way there’s an active goal being worked towards by the zone that doesn’t dead end at forked tower

[missTori]

just want to add that gurgeh is some kind of newest forum troll, he's been unhinged on here for months and i just ignore him.

[Aravell]

I would agree that the zone does need a CLL-like instance to cap it all off and it was a mistake to lock field notes behind content that a lot of players won't be able to commit to, but there is no story continuity locked behind FT, you clear it and that's it, no extra story.