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  1. #191
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    if you enjoy antifun content, then just do anything else in this game. Theme park.. you know? Visit the attractions that you like and stop complaining about everything else, that others might enjoy
    LOL...

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    Do you read what you write before posting it?
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  2. #192
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    Elie Uzephi
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    if you enjoy antifun content, then just do anything else in this game. Theme park.. you know? Visit the attractions that you like and stop complaining about everything else, that others might enjoy
    Not everyone is masochistic like you. If you enjoy dragging your personal bits across coal, yes this raid is perfect for you.
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  3. #193
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    Meredith Viera
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    I’m boycotting the new foray until they put in some form of casual raid, it’s pointless to level the phantom jobs since theres nowhere to use them on if you eschew the savage raid that is FT.
    In addition, Yoshida needs to keep Mr Ozma in check and not let him run wild when designing raids. The “oops we made it too hard… again” is tiring.
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  4. #194
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    Khryseis Astra
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sad-Panda View Post
    I’m boycotting the new foray until they put in some form of casual raid, it’s pointless to level the phantom jobs since theres nowhere to use them on if you eschew the savage raid that is FT.
    In addition, Yoshida needs to keep Mr Ozma in check and not let him run wild when designing raids. The “oops we made it too hard… again” is tiring.
    At this point, the next phantom jobs are the only thing I have to do besides currency grinding, which I can only do for so long before I get bored. At least the new phantom jobs will make it a little more entertaining. But then we still have a long wait until North Horn… they should use that time to make sure both zones get a Normal version of their respective Towers, because I’m assuming FT:Magic in it’s original form isn’t likely to be casual-friendly either. While they might give us both versions for North Horn, they need to do the same for South.
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  5. #195
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sad-Panda View Post
    I’m boycotting the new foray until they put in some form of casual raid, it’s pointless to level the phantom jobs since theres nowhere to use them on if you eschew the savage raid that is FT.
    In addition, Yoshida needs to keep Mr Ozma in check and not let him run wild when designing raids. The “oops we made it too hard… again” is tiring.
    I'm not necessarily boycotting it but when I've had time around my raid schedule where I was in OC before I'm just not bothering to go back and I'm doing other things in the game instead. I was up to 8 jobs mastered. I'll go finish the rest for the treasure chest thing on freelancer at some point but I'm not in a hurry. I have gold farming ahead to get glam somewhere, too, but I really hate the tank tower farms and nobody really wants to do it any other way. I don't intend to join a Discord for FT and unfortunately any PF that has popped up on Aether has just been Discords looking for fills. Maybe if they had had the 7.3 measures in place when it dropped we would have been a straight PF community trying it for a bit like Chaotic, but unfortunately it was established as Discord content at least on NA before that came out.
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  6. #196
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    Metra Surrik
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sad-Panda View Post
    I’m boycotting the new foray until they put in some form of casual raid, it’s pointless to level the phantom jobs since theres nowhere to use them on if you eschew the savage raid that is FT.
    In addition, Yoshida needs to keep Mr Ozma in check and not let him run wild when designing raids. The “oops we made it too hard… again” is tiring.
    It would have to be less punishing. Even if they do not make it so, FT needs to be easier to enter than what it is now, because not a lot of people would want to go through the hassle of getting de-levelled, getting re-levelled, waiting perhaps longer than expected, if not in a fresh instance, and then going in and possibly doing a clear. The vast amount of time people spend on doing all of the things just to go back into FT makes the whole process incredibly frustrating.
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  7. #197
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    Khryseis Astra
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeresaFortell View Post
    The vast amount of time people spend on doing all of the things just to go back into FT makes the whole process incredibly frustrating.
    Even more so with the added difficulty of the rez restrictions and wipe mechanics. Unless you have a perfect team of 48 people and/or get insanely lucky, you will require multiple runs to clear, going through this every. single. time.
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  8. #198
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    Zoh Chah
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Currently haven't set foot once inside forked tower blood since its release and I don't plan to enter it until later when north horn is released so I get more job mastery.

    Instead I have been farming underkeep dungeon for glamour and the royal hound minion. And I would say after 45 runs I been improving my gameplay steadily. Which this anecdote might seem like a non sequitur, but there is a point to it, because I can do it repeatedly and its not overly punishing, it allows for my skills to gradually grow with the viper job, even sometimes clearing bosses as the last person standing or the second to last person with a tank, unlike blood tower. As blood tower with all its restrictions just makes it a pain to actually go out and do that and therefore I can't develop my skills unless I choose to go out of my way and get with a discord group and their sign ups.

    Like I already finished leveling my phantoms, got the glamour pieces I want, got a couple of full gear sets to +1, got the mount, got the riding map. The only thing I have realistically left to do is just be capped on gold and silver. After that, I am mostly just waiting until they implement the next step of the relic weapons and maybe some phantom jobs to level.

    Like you see what I am saying SE? Those 45 runs of underkeep could've been 45 for forked tower blood if it was more user friendly.
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  9. #199
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    Currently haven't set foot once inside forked tower blood since its release and I don't plan to enter it until later when north horn is released so I get more job mastery.

    Instead I have been farming underkeep dungeon for glamour and the royal hound minion. And I would say after 45 runs I been improving my gameplay steadily. Which this anecdote might seem like a non sequitur, but there is a point to it, because I can do it repeatedly and its not overly punishing, it allows for my skills to gradually grow with the viper job, even sometimes clearing bosses as the last person standing or the second to last person with a tank, unlike blood tower. As blood tower with all its restrictions just makes it a pain to actually go out and do that and therefore I can't develop my skills unless I choose to go out of my way and get with a discord group and their sign ups.

    Like I already finished leveling my phantoms, got the glamour pieces I want, got a couple of full gear sets to +1, got the mount, got the riding map. The only thing I have realistically left to do is just be capped on gold and silver. After that, I am mostly just waiting until they implement the next step of the relic weapons and maybe some phantom jobs to level.

    Like you see what I am saying SE? Those 45 runs of underkeep could've been 45 for forked tower blood if it was more user friendly.
    Mastery stacks aren’t going to help forked because in forked you basically never wipe to enrage (hell the biggest prog point in forked actually locks itself on 0.1% health till you see all its mechanics and 24% extra damage is barely going to help that)

    Even if you do get stronger in north horn it’ll just be like BA, still organised in discord but almost guaranteed a clear rather than forked which you have to prog
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  10. #200
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    Zoh Chah
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    (and 24% extra damage is barely going to help that)
    And as I stated, I am going to wait for more phantoms. As if they implement all the FF5 jobs as shards, that is 26 stacks of phantom mastery or 52%. If we exclude Blue Mage and Beastmaster for whatever reason, that is 48%. And since damage buffs are multiplicative, that is going to add up very fast.
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